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Speaker 1: That is called Horsey. The band is singe as we have now entered our number two numero dos of Matt Connerton Unleashed. And we are live from the studios of WMNH 95.3 FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to mattconnerton.com or actually go to mattconnertonunleashed.com, our new website. Go to mattconnertonunleashed.com for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info. show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Before we get into tonight with these fine people we have in studio, I just want to remind everybody to take a moment to say welcome to our newest sponsor here on Matt Connerton Unleashed and at WMNH 95.3 FM, Xtrilly.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: So Larry from Loud Entertainment has returned. Hello again, Larry.
Speaker 5: Good morning.
Speaker 1: Larry was with us in the first hour if you missed it. And of course, we have the fine people from BPS Records. Please introduce yourselves because it's been two years since you were on the show. It's been two years. Yeah. So please introduce yourselves.
Speaker 6: I am Hot Rod, the owner and founder, and all of the other hats.
Speaker 1: Okay. And I'm John.
Speaker 7: I'm stagehand, and the rest of the help do a lot of the other moving parts of BPS Records.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 6: All of the other hats.
Speaker 1: All of the other hats, yeah. So the first time that you were on the show, and again, it was a couple of years ago, you had a third person with you. Who came with us last year?
Speaker 3: Remy.
Speaker 1: Oh, is that who it was?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was Remy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Remy was with us last year.
Speaker 6: Remy was supposed to be here today. Unfortunately, she had an injury to her.
Speaker 1: Both.
Speaker 6: Say it for me.
Speaker 1: Both meniscus. Meniscus, yeah. Tore both meniscuses.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's... Big shout out to Remy at home.
Speaker 1: I was wondering that. It does sound like it would have a Latin plural, doesn't it? It does sound that way. Well, of course, so if you are just joining us, the reason that everyone is here today is Swarmy Fest. It is that time again. A little early this year. It's in September. But Swarmy Fest tonight, Swarmy Fest 5 at Jewel Music Venue. It's at 61 Canal Street. right across the street uh jenny and i will be there of course and uh jenny we haven't mentioned too you're bringing something with you tonight uh to present at the show correct or i don't know if present is the right word because i don't think you're gonna have it on stage display that's.
Speaker 8: The word i was looking for i finished a cape piece that took me months and months and months and months to make from scratch by hand and it lights up and it's cool and i thought why not bring it to swarmy fast and just show it off yeah because.
Speaker 1: It's cool i just hope it fits in the car.
Speaker 8: Fit in the car. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1: You're being such an over-exaggerator. I'm just saying, it's really big.
Speaker 8: It's shorter than me.
Speaker 1: Well, it is, yeah.
Speaker 8: Stop it. That's enough you.
Speaker 1: So are we going to put it in the front seat?
Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
Speaker 8: Stop it.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on the roof.
Speaker 8: I'm going to put it in the passenger seat, and I'm going to drive.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying it because we're going to have to lay it flat, right? No, but it's a big thing. I want people to understand it's a big thing. It's on a dummy. This isn't just like.
Speaker 8: It comes off the dummy.
Speaker 6: Wait, you can learn a lot from a dummy.
Speaker 8: This is true.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's true.
Speaker 6: You can ride with us, Jen.
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.
Speaker 8: The bottom part comes off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: Well i didn't think i didn't think.
Speaker 8: We want to watch something humorous watch us load in.
Speaker 1: Wait so so we can actually take it apart to put it in the car yeah i didn't i didn't realize that well because all this stuff is on it.
Speaker 8: Well yeah because i was just gonna wrap it up and throw it in the car like.
Speaker 1: That well that's what i thought but if we have to we can take it apart is what you're saying If we have to.
Speaker 8: But I don't think we're going to have to.
Speaker 1: No, I think it'll fit. No, but it is big. It will fit. It's a big deal, though. Because we want people to understand, this isn't like just some little chintzy thing.
Speaker 2: Oh, no.
Speaker 1: Oh, my God, no. This is a big deal that you did. I portrayed a huge cape. You've worked very hard on for... Huge cape. When did you start it? Oh, God.
Speaker 8: Beginning of the year, end of last year, I started working on the cape.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8: The cape took a really long time, but it took even longer to put all of the embellishments on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Because there's like little butterflies on it.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 8: The suspense is killing me.
Speaker 1: Oh, wait till you see it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: It's heavy, though.
Speaker 6: It sounds like it's right up my alley.
Speaker 2: Oh, really?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I always come with things that light up.
Speaker 5: Cape.
Speaker 7: Did you put any bees on it?
Speaker 1: Oh, for the swarm?
Speaker 5: For the swarm. I.
Speaker 8: may or may not have something be related yeah involved yeah maybe.
Speaker 1: I recently had to destroy a hornet's nest i don't know if that counts.
Speaker 8: Those are awful insects those aren't bees yeah.
Speaker 1: That's true that's true um well so tell us again uh for for newer listeners for the uninitiated tell us about bps records.
Speaker 6: So we are located currently in middletown connecticut um we are basically it's Always hard for me to like give my eight seconds of explaining what we do. It's so complex.
Speaker 1: Well, we got time. Don't feel like you have to rush. We got time.
Speaker 6: Okay. So I guess the best thing that I can say is it's the independent label for the independent artist.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So, you know, what all the including factors of that, your one-stop shop for, thank you, your one-stop shop for, you know, all promotional value to your career. Everything is tailor-made to you. So you don't have to go outside. spend money and do things as well as we offer our platform. So full service inside the studio, as well as marketing promotion, PR, we participate and we support everybody that's independently supporting themselves.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: Because, you know, it takes a village, I guess. Right. It's what they always say, but right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: You know, if we're not out there, you know, there's one thing I can't stand more than anything in the world and I'll say it and I don't care who hears me, but don't come to my shows. That I put on all this stuff for you guys and not stay and support the other bands.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Doesn't that kill you?
Speaker 6: That's a big, big deal for me. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't care if you're not even spending money and you're just there enjoying what we're presenting it for.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: Stay and support the other bands. I mean, we did a show recently. I was very upset, but I didn't say anything because, you know, to each his own. But the first band went on. when the last band went on, who's phenomenal by the way, but they went outside and sat outside. The whole crowd had already left. The least you could have done was stand in front of this band. So for me, that says a lot about your integrity and your path to your independent music career. Right? So we, we invite people that are ready to present themselves appropriately and then we'll take that and wherever you need help, we assist in that area.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So like, I think I said this last time is I had this list of demands for anyone that signed to my label.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And it starts with, it's all commonality of common sense, right?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Must be able to attend.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 6: Must be on time.
Speaker 5: Must be breathing.
Speaker 6: Right, right. Don't forget your microphone.
Speaker 1: No, just kidding.
Speaker 6: But like, you know, that stuff that unfortunately a lot of these artists fail to realize, like you're not successful yet. So you have to show the world why. You worked so hard to be successful.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: And how you show up makes that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: And all of us know in the back of our head, that's kind of an unwritten rule. I mean, you get invited to a show, hang out and watch the whole show. Don't come do your thing and leave and not support the bands that just stood in front of you.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: I just think it's wrong.
Speaker 6: A hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: I think like, so what we stand for, I'm going to say that a lot. We stand for a lot of things, but what we stand for is bringing that that original, you know, industry back to the industry because it's, it's all seemed like washed away and forgotten. And that's so frustrating to me, especially as a singer.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to hear myself, but I want you to hear, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Um, one of the bands is playing tonight. Singe. We played, uh, uh, that song horsey that, that I love. Um, and there now you're, you've been talking with them, right. About bringing them on board.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Was it last year? It was before my vacation.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 6: Okay. So I had a vacation that I had to take and it put everything on a sabbatical. So we came right in hard with revamping the studio and putting on our shows because it doesn't matter if my bar is open or any of the extracurricular things I do to make money. If the music wasn't happening for X amount of time, I have to make up for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So we immediately started putting on shows and I'm like fangirl, not able to hide. when I like really want to sign someone or like them and it can be aggressive. And I know that, that it sounds like the old record label contract devil memes, you know, cause I'm like, what do you need? I'll give it to you. Like, but, um, so when singe performed, I knew everyone else on the bill. I usually do my homework and everything, but I didn't know anything about them cause I didn't realize this was like their first real performance.
Speaker 1: Oh, no kidding.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love getting that. We get a lot of that when I'm like, Oh, how long you've been performing? And they're like, This is like really our first time. And I'm like, I'm so honored.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was just going to say that's a good, that's an awesome thing to hear.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They're getting an opportunity and that's what we're here for, to create opportunities.
Speaker 6: Right. A hundred percent. And give what we've learned along the way, right? Kind of to these younger bands. And so I literally dropped what I was doing. I came running down from the VIP and was like taking pictures of it. Just the whole presentation.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Was so monumental. And I think the way I explained it, I immediately was like, don't leave.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: We have to talk, you know, kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: But to get to the point of what happened there is, yes, I would love to sign them. I'm working on that. I gave them an opportunity. They jumped on it. By no means did it have anything to do with them. My, you know, life we talked about before balance and tying up things that could suck you back to your old life and things like that is what I needed to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I handled that, and in the mix of it, time had separated us. But this is my peace offering to Singe to show them how valuable I think they are and to get everyone else to know. And whatever comes of that comes of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? I will constantly support them and show up for them no matter what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Because they're worth it.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 6: You heard it yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The story behind them is pretty great, too, as far as like, you know, they're all so different, and they come together in a seamless way that is like nature to them. You know what I mean? So, and it shows, I think I said to them, I said, you kind of give me this like Maynard and Ozzy and LeJean got together and had a baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Is what I said.
Speaker 6: And they were like, oh my God, it's so amazing. Cause you don't think of yourself the way others do, you know, as a, as a musician. And I meant it. And the more I listen, I could add even more superstars to it. And, Some of them I don't even think they know. They just are doing right music.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They're doing it right. They're doing it good. And I love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I want to see them succeed at whatever it takes, you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now, that's excellent to hear somebody boasting somebody else.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 5: Everybody needs to help each other.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: You know, it's one big community, and if we keep fighting against each other in the middle, no one's going to collaborate and have fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And that's really what it's all about. We all know there's really no money here. It's fun.
Speaker 1: We enjoy it.
Speaker 5: You know, we enjoy putting the shows together, the buildup of it, advertising it, the night of the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And sometimes you wake up that next morning when you have a really good show and you're still feeling like you're in that moment.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Um, who else have you been working with at BPS records?
Speaker 6: Um, so we've been, we've had, it's almost a, almost was a year sabbatical. Um, but we are right back into our punk shows. We do our concerts every Saturday. So we've been doing all local bands down there. Um, Some new ones. We're going to do it. Yeah, we got to talk about Lost Soul right now. Lost Soul hit me similar to the way Singed did, but in a whole different bracket, right? So they're a little more older and weathered as far as their experience. but just as seamless, singes just as seamless as them, so I don't want that to come off the wrong way.
Speaker 6: But, you know, when a bassist, and we just had this conversation, so it was interesting listening to you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I made a joke about how that's why the drummers get all the girls. You don't see the bassists walking around arming up girls, but they're the glue, right? They're the glue to the music.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 6: But when you have a bassist and you have a lead guitarist, That can look at each other across the stage. Can I say stage sex? Is that allowed?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can say that.
Speaker 6: That's the nicer version of it. And then, boom, the room is powered by that combination.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No matter what. And they just ebb and flow so– I can't explain it enough yet because I'm in awe when they play.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I actually let them put their first sticker on my new sticker wall.
Speaker 1: Oh, no kidding.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Everything about them is phenomenal. And the first thing I said to them was, keep September open for next year. I'm bringing you up to Swarmy Fest. So they'll be a great addition to Swarmy Fest. So check them out. They are L-O-S-T-S-O-L. So it's like an ambigram of lost. I love it.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's pretty dope.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Super cool.
Speaker 6: And they are on Instagram. Who else do we got going on?
Speaker 7: So Infamous. They're another great band that played at our spot.
Speaker 6: Yes, definitely.
Speaker 5: Definitely check them out.
Speaker 7: Sucked In was another great band that played at our spot. Three-piece band.
Speaker 6: The performances are just so profound right so they keep their original punk right so sometimes we got ska we got a lot of ska punk bands that come in but hardcore and all that and then the support they have for one another is the opposite of what I was just complaining about like it's phenomenal and uh I'm like a little kid. I remember being back at the bomb shelter, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The bomb shelter.
Speaker 6: Now I'm aging myself. And I would sit there and just be like, this is what music is about. I don't care if we make it anywhere. Like right here in this shelter is where it's at. And that's the vibe that you get from that. So I love doing that. We do that every Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: So if anybody wants to have their, this isn't about, we don't make money off these bands or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Um whomever hosts i i give promotions to the promoters too so i'll let them run my night okay so for their promotion as well it's kind of like a woven factory of all of the money staying in the in the presentation staying within the artistry okay we all make money off our own talents i don't need to make money off yours yours and yours because i've already built what i'm making my money off of so we do that even for the promoters so we work with sound hound who um you know, started with us to get their band list for promotion off.
Speaker 6: And then they went off when we took a break and did their own thing, but they're back. So a big shout out to Soundhound. If you want to be on the Punkvilles, you could check us out or you could check out Soundhound on Instagram. We want somebody, we want bands that not necessarily come with people. That's our job, right? It's my facility. We want bands that are like, people need to hear. I need fans.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? And do that work and do that promotion. We're going to bring our fans and we're going to help you learn how to bring your new fans, right?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: So there's that. We're doing this really big movement right now, keeping metal, keeping Middletown metal.
Speaker 5: Keeping Middletown metal.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 6: I'm afraid it's turning into a bomb shelter vibe in a negative way.
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 6: It's too underground.
Speaker 8: Okay.
Speaker 6: Nobody in Middletown is booking... you know, heavy metal, hardcore or rock in any ways that I feel like that's where it started for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Like if I didn't see, damn, I will age myself a lot, but like I've been, I mean, I've been front row at Oz Fest, you know what I mean? Screaming at Ozzy, like those kinds of experiences I think are a must, you know? So, um, we have some, well, I don't want to mess it up. I always do.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 6: Salt, salt of the earth record label.
Speaker 5: Salt of the earth.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 7: They were here a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: Phenomenal. Um, we're going to try to link up with them this year. Um, but right now I'm doing the independent artists band. So these bands that might need a little more structure from BPS to put together a presentation, but we're giving them that grace. October 24th is going to be, is going to be our first big rock showdown. Um, We had some talks at JAM on Thursday about potentially doing like a Swarmy Fest post-party in Connecticut. So I'm going to see if we can't get that to happen with the Swarmy Fest team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: You know, keep it moving.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Because we don't want to do it just once a month. You know, we want to kind of really build that. If you're going to keep a genre alive, you know, you can't just, oh, hey, remember us? We do this.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 6: You know, so that's our next thing. endeavor okay okay so i like it yeah you gotta come down i'm gonna come check it out yeah yeah so we did rebuild the studio okay during this a bit you know when you have to take a break you can't just come back and dust.
Speaker 1: Off the machines right right yeah.
Speaker 6: So we took hot rod spotlight lounge and we merged it so we've now got this second mezzanine speakeasy legit speakeasy balcony level so We've got the whole VIP, like old school traditional green room VIP.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 6: Hanging off the balcony. You got the, you know, the bar, the lounge, the dinette. And it's a full service studio. So you're now on the top and you see down to like the whole.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 6: You know, you can do videos there.
Speaker 1: You can do anything you want there.
Speaker 6: So, you know, get on in on that.
Speaker 5: Great vibe. Great vibe.
Speaker 6: We don't ever want to leave.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: My kids, my kids will text me everything. All right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I told you to come. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Cause we are all ages.
Speaker 5: Okay. So that's another thing. It's great. Letting parents introduce the children to it too.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: Next generation needs to be here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Doing like a bring your child, bring your parent, uh, like mommy and me jam sessions and stuff I think is really important. Um, we did just get a, uh, my host, uh, Chuck Peterson, he was supposed to be here, too, but he got a gig, and you know how that works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: So he hosts my musician's jam. So instead of being, like, open to the public, per se, for anyone to come in like an open mic is, we do musician's jams.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So it's for musicians to check their ego at the door, come on in, and make music together live on the spot. So I may learn from you something I would have never learned by myself, right, or whatever level. So now I got kids from School of Rock. Messaging in that, can we come? We're 16. I'm like, yeah, like, get down here. And that's, you know, the fruit.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's Larry's phone. I don't know if the mics are picking that up or what. I was just trying to figure out where that chime was coming from.
Speaker 6: It was my background music.
Speaker 1: There you go. Live radio. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, you know, I think it's really important with that, bringing that orientation of all ages without it being like a, damn, I wish I didn't do all ages party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Because it's about the service and the music, not about the party.
Speaker 1: There's never enough all ages venues. I mean, you know, coming up in the scene here in New Hampshire, you know, for what we had, we had Cafe Eclipse and Concord that came and went.
Speaker 5: Oh gosh. I remember.
Speaker 1: You remember Cafe Eclipse?
Speaker 6: I was there a lot.
Speaker 5: Were you?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We probably met there at some point.
Speaker 6: I did a lot with Spider Bite Radio. JT was my best friend.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 6: I was in that hole. I'd love to see that whole scene come back and like really do its thing.
Speaker 1: You know, there's, um, I just, it's funny you mentioned spider bite radio. Cause there's a, there's a trailer that I always see it sitting in somebody's driveway on Eddie road here in Manchester. Um, and it's, and it's got, it says spider by radio.com.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah. That they're local to here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Um, big shout out, big shout out to my JT.
Speaker 1: I fell asleep on his couch once at a, at a party that I was at that I probably shouldn't have been at.
Speaker 6: I was probably there.
Speaker 1: You were, you were probably there.
Speaker 6: I basically lived there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. We've, we've, we've met, we've met before we met. Yeah, definitely. But, um, I know it seems like a lifetime ago in some ways.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Um, but, uh, how long, so BPS has existed for how long now?
Speaker 6: So technically and legally and you know, all that crap stuff, uh, 2014. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Longer than I thought. Wow.
Speaker 6: But it was like, I was told that someone's going to steal it if I keep telling people about it. So I registered it and then I took my time to really build it. It's, it's so much more than I could ever explain that. For example, I took my business plan. I didn't realize that I do whatever the hell I want. Like if anybody knows me, especially in this state, I do whatever the hell I want. And you know, my older age, I've learned it slows me down a bit, but back then it didn't. So when I was told, oh, you got to go to planning and zoning and like get permission.
Speaker 6: I was like, permission. So I brought my business plan and I just remember them all looking at me. They all read it. And it was just like, what? They're like, did you bring this to the chamber of commerce? And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, they're not helping you.
Speaker 7: Are they?
Speaker 2: I go, no. Why?
Speaker 6: He goes, cause you rewrote the chamber of commerce for music. And I was like, I'm not sure what that means, but I'll look that up. And it was great. And it's really what I wanted to do. I wanted to create the real commonality of how we can all be successful together. So, you know, maybe next time I come on, we'll talk about a different department. Really get into it. But yeah, so I little by little was doing these little pieces to generate money because I'm a firm believer and we're starving artists for a reason.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to be able to go get a loan. If I can go get a loan, I'd be somewhere else today. You know what I mean? Sure. But also, I don't want to start in debt either, right?
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 6: So, and not everybody has the ability to do that, especially within the industry. So, you know, being true to what I'm bragging about is really important. So, I've just been opening my departments to make my money from the outside world and then eventually kind of created this atmosphere to be able to do it and really took ground, I think, 2016 or 17. Okay. But it was like, it was, I don't know what I can say on the air, but I'm going to say it. It was ass backwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can say that. Okay.
Speaker 6: I think all the words I can't say are tattooed on my ribs, actually.
Speaker 5: Gotcha.
Speaker 6: But that's for another day. So it came backwards. So my final step was opening like my Whiskey A Go-Go, I think we talked about before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's the Spotlight Lounge.
Speaker 6: Well, that came first. And I was like, well, you know, God has other plans. So we just started promoting. people and putting them on the stage and when you bring in these local artists that are are like you know what you're you're gonna pay me what thank you you know it's such a great feeling because i sometimes went without paying for my food and alcohol sometimes just to make sure But you can't expect them to not be paid. I'm going to say this live right now. Your musicians don't just show up and they're not little monkeys with symbols.
Speaker 6: You can't wind them up. Blood, sweat, and never tears are working to get to that presentation.
Speaker 7: Exactly.
Speaker 6: And just to get there costs them probably more than they're going to take home after they support your venue and eat and drink there.
Speaker 1: Especially right now. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: I used to be like, well, it's one or the other. You know, when I was booking for other places I worked at, you either get drinks and food or you get paid, and I hated it. So I made sure I didn't do that. And if you come to me and you're performing at my place and you're, I have a budget, you know, like, and I fluctuate it. Don't get, don't, don't take my numbers right now and be like, Oh, we can't go there. But like, I like to say, look, you know, I have $ 300. This is my budget. What can I do to make it worth it for you?
Speaker 6: Not what can you do for me for $ 300, you know? So if you come to me and you say, well, I have an eight piece bin and I can do this and I can do that.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So everybody can eat for free. Everybody can, whatever, Hey, maybe I'll pull it on another 300. Like you, it's Robin Peter to pay Paul, but that's the fruit of the labor.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And you make it, you make up for it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not going to lose my house if I have to sell more fruit today.
Speaker 1: Right. Right.
Speaker 6: It's got to work harder, you know?
Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker 6: So, uh, yeah. So it really took off with that. And then we had tragedy in my family. Um, and we had to bury somebody that we had to take some serious time off. So it was a good, two years before I was like, Oh wow. I could still redo it. And I did. And I keep redoing it just a little better every time. So, you know, nothing changes. I am the person I say that I am. So if I have a cardboard box and a microphone, I'll be a busker if I have to, but it's still going to be BPS because we're true to ourselves.
Speaker 1: So. Has anything really, um, surprised you over the years with it? Like, is, is there been anything where you've kind of gone, wow, I didn't, I didn't think it was going to be this way, or I didn't think that this would, this particular thing would be a challenge. I mean, this usually, usually with any, usually with anyone in the industry or with anyone who's an entrepreneur or both, there's usually a few things that come up, right. That you're not expecting.
Speaker 6: I think the big one, the big one for me, because I do expect the worst always. Um, and that's how I dodge it from affecting me, but, um, And it's something that I guess it's good that I keep forgetting because if I, I would be inhuman and I would have no spirituality if I didn't. I keep getting shocked by the fact that I'm giving so much and I'm still taking advantage of so much. You know what I'm saying? And like, I think what we have to do is get to the point and maybe I'm kind of there. where it doesn't matter if you take advantage of me.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to be heard over it. It sucks for you. It sucks for me. And like I said before, I'll fire the whole crew. And I have, again, recently.
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 6: That's why we pass around the hats, because if you're taking from me, you're taking from all the other musicians I promised a platform to.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: And it's not worth it for me to help enable you. I can't be the great enabler, you know? Right. I'm too many other things.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 6: But, you know, it hurts. It sucks. Because for me, I think it dampers the fact that I believe in the effect of what I'm doing. And I don't want to forget the people that are shining and taking advantage of it in a positive way. Because I want that. I want people to come to me and say, hey, I can't do this. Can you do it for me? And be vulnerable and not feel ashamed that they needed help for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Because it's freaking hard. You know what I mean? It's hard, especially you tell me one musician that is super confident and doesn't in their bedroom cry about how shit their performance was. Oh, I can't say that.
Speaker 1: We're on a delay. I got it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 6: So, but you know what I'm saying? Like there's that meme about the musician that had a great night and you're like, oh, he did so good. And then they turn around and vomit.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: None of us are that confident in our talent. It doesn't matter what we portray and we give and how good we are at it. We're all going to be insecure because of judgment and rejection.
Speaker 1: I think creative people tend to be the most self-critical.
Speaker 6: Yes, 100%. But I'm here to tell you all you rock, even if you think you suck. Thank you. I'll bring you flowers. They just won't be real. They'll be words.
Speaker 1: But on that note, like, do you ever have to kind of turn anybody away? I feel like we might've talked about this last time you were on too. Like where you have to say you're not ready for what it is that you're trying to do.
Speaker 6: So crazy that you just brought that up because the gentleman we spoke about, I said, I never kick anybody out. I kicked him out of the middle of the performance and he was leaving anyways. Yeah. I've never done that. Well, now he's found his way to like, reality tv in california but it's like with like the worst stars that you could possibly pick and i'm.
Speaker 1: Just gonna leave it at that you've probably heard of yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm like you know what i did the right thing you know well i don't want to blast him like that kind of goes against you know whatever but he's where he.
Speaker 1: Belongs okay right like we'll leave it at.
Speaker 6: That if this is who you wanted to be.
Speaker 7: We'll tell you off the air.
Speaker 6: My place was not for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll tell you off the air.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, we'll do that. My place was not for, and what I'm presenting to people, like I said, I got that list. If you're not ready to market yourself effectively, what in the heck can I do for you?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: You know, and if you're coming out here acting like you are... you know, Maynard and you are Tom and Jerry right now.
Speaker 1: Like it's a pretty great story.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah. We'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: However, recently, um, that has happened as well. So, and it goes right down to my staff, you know, I, you know, I give everybody chances and they want, they want so bad, but there was somebody else. He was a young kid and we might've talked about him to the rapper kid.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: This kid had it. And I don't, I don't, I don't do a lot in that genre because, the industry is crap. You know, you can't really pull out the true rappers and R and B artists that kind of stay true to the path. And I think they have a lot of, and I'm going to go out on a limb and speak for people, but they go, I think they show that it's more like it's unattainable for them to get this big celebrity style. And we're always talking about what that means to each individual. That's what it is. I think they, live on the fantasy of what it's supposed to be, unfortunately.
Speaker 6: But I'll do some shows, and I'll do some. So this young kid was jaw-dropping amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But then he opened his mouth personally about what he felt that he deserved.
Speaker 5: Oh, no.
Speaker 6: And I was like, and he even used the term, I'm going to be like your Justin Bieber while he was trying to sign papers. And I'm like, not going to happen. I'll take that paper right now. Wow. Because you're not just going to.
Speaker 1: And he was serious?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He was that serious. And I had to tell him, you're not that great. But what I mean by that is I told him by saying, okay, how about this? I always did my meetings at our jam because it's on the spot, on the fly. If you can't feel the music and figure it out, all that stuff you talk about that you're showing me is fake to me because I don't care if you freestyle your own lyrics. Do it different than what's on your record. Show me that you have what you're telling me you have. And he really couldn't do it.
Speaker 6: it's something you can learn and that's what we do. So I didn't do it to kind of like prove him wrong. I did it to see where his skill level was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And he just wasn't willing to accept that. He was, you know, like a kid making every excuse in the book. And I became his mom in one night and I got enough kids.
Speaker 1: At home, you know?
Speaker 6: So, so that was a shame. And I think it was more of a shame because he hasn't done anything with his career since then.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And that's a big fear, like being honest with musicians, because you don't want to be the reason why, That they don't go anymore. I don't want to be in modeling. It was like that when I was a kid, you know?
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 6: You told me I was ugly because you didn't pick me. So you're the reason that I'm a bum. You know, I don't want to do that to people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 6: So it's a very fine line. But yes, we will tell people it's not for us or, you know, whatever. I can push people in different directions. But there's been some flat out, you're out of your mind. You need to leave my building now.
Speaker 8: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: You really just sang that or did that? You know, whatever, as an example.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know, but we do try to help before we say no. It takes a lot to really say no.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would imagine too. I mean, the ratio is probably pretty good. Like you, you probably, because I mean, in my own experience, I've met very few people like that who, who really like most, most musicians I've met, you know, are pretty, even really successful ones. They tend to be pretty humble.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Good, good people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't, I haven't met very many outsized. I mean, we've all got stories, but I haven't met very many like outsized egos.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: At least so far. Then again, I mean, being a radio guy, you know, musicians kind of, they do treat us a little better probably than some other people just because they kind of need us to play their music on the radio.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: So they might be.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 8: And I have.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm thinking about it, I've definitely had conversations with people where I kind of felt like, yeah i i think they're being a little extra nice to me you know because they want me to play their song you know and it's like um but but for the most but even you know like i used to do a lot as a promoter like like um Like what you do, Larry. I used to do a lot of that, and I kind of got burnt out on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But even with that, I didn't run into too many. I mean, do you run into that much?
Speaker 5: I do. Do you? Yeah, you run into all kinds of– everybody's got different– Everybody's got different thoughts. Everybody's got haters. I mean, it's like if we all just got together and worked on each other together, we could bring this all back together.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: And get people out where they think they are going to get out for a good time, a safe time, be able to express themselves and not worry about what other people think.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 6: That's the beautiful people's society. That's the moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Absolutely. Uh, if you're just joining us, of course, uh, we've got, uh, the great people from BPS records here with us and, uh, Larry from loud entertainment, uh, is with us as well. And I'm looking at, geez, the time goes so fast, but we're going to have a great time tonight. We're talking about swarmy fast, of course, uh, doors at seven music starts at seven 30 at jewel music venue, 61 canal street. It's actually right, uh, across the street from where the radio station is here. Very, uh, very convenient.
Speaker 1: Uh, $ 20 at the door. Is that still correct, Larry?
Speaker 5: I believe so.
Speaker 1: $ 20 at the door.
Speaker 5: I think it was $ 12 pre-sale, $ 20 at the door maybe?
Speaker 1: That's what this says, $ 12 advance, $ 20 at the door. And I think the advance, but the advance tickets are gone, right?
Speaker 6: They just sold their last one today.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent.
Speaker 5: And anybody who bought those tickets pre-sale also got an entry to win the guitar, the signed guitar.
Speaker 1: Yes, very cool, very cool. The lineup tonight includes, let's see, the Gray Curtain, Grim the Acronym, Elder P. Sloan, Singe, 3FD, and the one that I can't pronounce, P.H. Larry, I heard you do it earlier.
Speaker 5: No, you didn't.
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Didn't you take a stab at it?
Speaker 5: I think Bruce did that.
Speaker 2: Oh, Bruce?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I can't roll my R's. How do you say this, P.H.? Can either of you do it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't. Where is it?
Speaker 8: You have it.
Speaker 1: It's spelled T-E-I-X-E-R-A.
Speaker 5: Texera?
Speaker 6: Texera.
Speaker 1: Teixeira?
Speaker 6: That's Teixeira.
Speaker 1: Teixeira? Oh, that's not so bad.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 6: I work in the MMA world, so I know a few Teixeiras.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. That makes sense. Because I can't roll my R's, so I can't say it like how you're really supposed to say it. But I'll go with your way.
Speaker 2: Teixeira.
Speaker 6: If it's Brazilian, it's Teixeira.
Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: All right. Excellent. Excellent. And of course, Sepsis is headlining. The Blood Witch and Reminisce will be there. Jenny will have her, what do you call it again?
Speaker 8: It's an artistic piece.
Speaker 5: It's a cape.
Speaker 1: It's an artistic piece. I thought I heard you use a different term for it, though.
Speaker 8: Fashion art?
Speaker 2: Maybe not.
Speaker 1: Maybe not.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: But that will be there on display, of course.
Speaker 8: It's too early to make me think this way.
Speaker 6: At the unveiling, we'll name it.
Speaker 1: And the fine sponsors tonight, of course, BPS Records, Loud Entertainment, and let's see, oh, Legion of Solace, of course. We had Malcolm and Bruce on in the first hour. And of course, Matt Connerton Unleashed, as always, very proud to be one of the sponsors as well.
Speaker 7: Thank you for having us, man.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely.
Speaker 5: And from sitting in on both interviews and sitting here talking with you, there's like everybody's on the same page. So, you know, other people have to slow down and take a look and see if you want to be on the bus, let's, let's do it, you know?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: Next year, I'll have the tour bus.
Speaker 7: It's an honor, man.
Speaker 5: I just took a bus out. I'm sorry, buddy.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 7: I was saying thank you for your time. It's an honor.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. Thank you for being here. No, it's great to see you. Look forward to seeing you tonight. And I think what we're going to do, so we do have to show some love to our amazing sponsors. So we got to wrap up this hour. And I believe we have some fine folks from Cephasis coming in. in the third hour, if you are listening live on a Saturday, but I think going into the break, we should play another song from singe. Cause I, I really like this. Um, this is called, uh, settling scores and, uh, Hey, I'll see y'all tonight.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: Later.
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