Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-26-26

0:04 Speaker 1: You're listening to Matt Connerton Unleashed on WMNH 95.3.

0:19 Speaker 2: Right now, exclusively on Matt Connerton Unleashed, the world radio premiere of the new single from Lydia Reddy, This Is How.

0:28 Speaker 3: You are listening to WMNH 95.3.

0:30 Speaker 4: World premiere.

0:51 Speaker 5: Their feet on sand Made their way to the promised land Many a man have played to look the fool.

1:10 Speaker 6: And just like them.

1:12 Speaker 7: I followed down the whirlpool And I think this is how I die.

1:21 Speaker 8: And nobody's questioning why.

1:24 Speaker 9: Oh, why is this.

1:25 Speaker 5: How I die?

1:30 Speaker 10: I want to make.

1:34 Speaker 8: Something of my life. And I just cry.

1:36 Speaker 4: Day through, day flat.

1:51 Speaker 11: But I'll eventually die.

1:58 Speaker 12: Many a man have tried to escape their fate.

2:03 Speaker 5: I'd be a billion to one in a rat race.

2:10 Speaker 10: And I think this is how I die.

2:15 Speaker 8: And nobody's questioning why.

2:23 Speaker 10: This is how I die I want to.

2:28 Speaker 5: Make some of my life And I just cry This is how I die Oh, this is how I die.

2:52 Speaker 13: Put on my chain mail.

2:54 Speaker 7: Armor And leave you with all of.

3:00 Speaker 14: The trauma Come and make me live longer Please make me stop suffocating Tighten my grip on my soul Pronounce my soul, Lord Be all the talk All I want, Lord And I.

3:19 Speaker 15: Think This, this is how I fight.

3:26 Speaker 6: And nobody's questioning why.

3:29 Speaker 7: How fast.

4:12 Speaker 16: Night.

4:52 Speaker 4: I love it.

4:52 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome, everybody.

4:53 Speaker 4: Here we go.

4:54 Speaker 2: It is that time again. Matt Connerton unleashed. We opened the show this week with another world radio premiere. You will not hear that anywhere else on the radio yet, at least in the United States. The new single from Lydia Reddy called This Is How. She's been on the show with us a couple of times, and we'll definitely have to get her on again. But what a great song to open up the show this week. A little bit different from her previous singles that we featured on the show. But great, great artist from the UK.

5:23 Speaker 2: Welcome, everybody. This is Matt Connerton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of WMNH 95.3 FM. in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to mattconnerton.com slash live or our new, well, newer, I don't want to say new at this point. It's been up for a while, but mattconnertonunleashed.com slash live dash now or just go to the live button. Click that button on the mattconnertonunleashed.com site, which is exclusively dedicated, of course, to the program.

5:59 Speaker 2: Today is a Saturday, September 26th, 2026. Hope everyone is safe and traveling safely. Of course, take it easy out there this weekend because there is a big nor'easter coming, you know, too early for snow. Thank goodness. But there's going to be a lot of rain apparently. But that will not stop us. There is a big show tonight happening in Nashua, New Hampshire that's very important, and I just want to remind everybody about this. We've been talking about it and talking about it. Come see us tonight.

6:26 Speaker 2: Jenny and I will be there at Terminus Underground in Nashua. This is the mental health benefit show to support On the Road to Wellness, which is a peer-supported, arts-based mental health organization operating right here in Manchester, New Hampshire. In fact, we had... the executive director from that organization on the show recently with us, along with the band. We'll call them P in public. It's actually a different word that starts with a P, but I don't want to get in trouble, so we won't say the actual name.

6:56 Speaker 2: We'll call them P in public, but it's actually something a little different. It rhymes with kiss, but it's not. It starts with... Anyway, you get the idea. You know who I'm talking about. They were on the show as well, because they're participating in the show, obviously, tonight. Again, it's a benefit to support to help On the Road to Wellness, a great organization here in Manchester. So that was a number of weeks ago that they were on the show with us. But tonight's the big night. And this is happening at Terminus Underground at 134 Haines Street in Nashua.

7:26 Speaker 2: It's sponsored by Wanderlust Therapeutic Services. Let me give you the full rundown here. Terminus Underground community is coming together for a special night of music, connection and support. benefiting on the road to wellness in manchester uh... mental health is something that touches every community sometimes the most important thing we can do is simply show up for one another create a safe place to connect and remind people that they don't have to face difficult moments alone join us this is an all ages show by the way which is important there are not enough we talk about this on the show all the time there are not enough all ages shows so we're always a very happy when uh...

8:01 Speaker 2: there is something happening that you know you can bring the kids to bring the family Here's the lineup. Although, I don't know, maybe not super young kids, depending on how you feel. I'll give you the lineup. So we mentioned P in Public, Stoner, Black Crust, and Hardcore Punk Band. Also tonight, Phantasm. I'll give you the description of each one. Phantasm, horror-tinged electronic dance music, blending genres like bass house, dubstep, and UK garage. Witchspire. We're going to play one of their songs later.

8:32 Speaker 2: I really like them. Southern New Hampshire, Doom and Roll, a heavy hybrid style combining doom metal, stoner rock, and sludge slash southern metal. Very descriptive. Graboid, Boston band, Boston-based punk and hardcore, and Lobotomobile. Lobotomobile, by the way, not only is it fun to say, but they've never been on the show. Actually, none of these bands have been on the show except for P and Public. But Lobotomobile, their name comes up a lot on the show. And I feel like when we had Volley on recently, I feel like the name came up.

9:05 Speaker 2: So it is fun to say Lobotomobile. But I've been hearing about them for a long time, so really looking forward to seeing them. Genre-bending horror punk from Keen. So that is all happening tonight, doors at 7 p.m. Come see us at Terminus Underground. Again, it's at 134 Haynes Street in Nashua. And it's an important show, and mental health is important. You know, if you're a longtime listener, you know I'm someone who struggles with depression myself, and I'm no stranger to depression. no stranger to the mental health struggle known as the Big D, especially on a day like today when it's all rainy and blah outside.

9:42 Speaker 2: But that's okay. I'm happy to be here with you, and I'll be happy to be at that show tonight. So we'll talk about it again. Like I said, later in the show, we do have a few guests who are going to be joining us remotely. All our guests are remote today. Nobody in studio. it's uh it's very uh i'm all alone in this building but um i'm glad it's not halloween time i'd be afraid halloween's coming though a little over a month anyway uh but so we've got some great guests coming up but we're also going to try to feature a little bit of the music from some of the bands that are playing tonight at terminus as well so we're gonna we're gonna try to uh cram in as much as we can today in the three hours that we have uh really really quickly We have actually two kind of new sponsors now.

10:24 Speaker 2: I say kind of because one of them actually started recently, Xtrilly, which is a new rideshare service now operating in New Hampshire. You can go to X-T-R-I-L-L-I dot com. If you want to sign up, if you want to ride, go to Xtrilly dot com slash ride 953. If you want to become a driver for Xtrilly, you can go to Xtrilly dot com slash drive. nine, five, three. And, please, please sign up there. And, um, By the way, they pay their drivers pretty generously, so if you've ever done rideshare, it's definitely worth looking into.

11:00 Speaker 2: But we're very happy to have them on board with us. We have an even newer sponsor. This just happened. I won't talk about it too much, but I do want to mention Matt Connerton Hypnosis is now an official sponsor here at WMNH 95.3. I was kind of inspired by Rob Azevedo, who hosts a great show here called Granite State of Mind and is the owner and proprietor of Pembroke City Limits. When he opened Pembroke City Limits, which is a great venue here in Pembroke, New Hampshire, he began advertising here on WMNH.

11:37 Speaker 2: That was a couple of years ago, I think now, but I've kind of kept that in the back of my mind, and I'm at a point right now where It makes sense to really kind of invest some more resources in expanding my hypnotherapy practice. And I thought about it, you know, in terms of how one allocates those resources from a business standpoint. I thought, what better place to do it than WMNH, you know? I've been here for, it'll be 10 years in April. almost a decade that I've been hosting my show here. Gone in the blink of an eye, I'll tell you.

12:08 Speaker 2: It goes so quick. But to me, it just made sense. And so you'll be hearing my ad. So you might hear my dulcet tones outside of the show if you're listening to the station. But very proud and honored to be a part of... It's a great roster of sponsors that we have here at the station. You know, businesses like, of course, I mentioned Pembroke City Limits, Queen City Cabinetry, the great Mike Pellepita. They've been here with us forever. CGI Business Solutions, Diz's Cafe. There's a few others. I don't want to try to mention them all because I'll leave somebody out.

12:40 Speaker 2: I'll forget somebody and then I'll feel badly about it. But, you know, so very, very happy. And, of course, I mentioned Xtrilly, who just came on very recently. So, you know, to be kind of in the company of these other businesses here is also very exciting for me. So I appreciate all the support. And it's wonderful to finally not only host a show here at WMNH, but to have Matt Connerton Hypnosis become an official sponsor as well. It's very exciting. Speaking of exciting, so in just a couple of minutes, we're going to be joined by.

13:10 Speaker 17: Uh.

13:10 Speaker 2: let's see our first guess a tiny magnetic pats they are joining us remotely other from ireland actually so uh.

13:18 Speaker 18: assume.

13:19 Speaker 2: That's where they are currently where to play this is from their new their newest releases called the astral oxy p And this is a song that, you know, I think if you pay attention to it, a lot of people can kind of relate to it. But we'll talk to more. We'll talk with them more about what the lyrics mean. But it's called Lost My Guiding Light Again. And it explores a topic that I think is relatable for most people. Most people feel this way. You know, at some point they feel lost. They feel like they've lost their way, whether it's personally or professionally or whatever it is.

13:47 Speaker 2: Like maybe they've kind of wandered off the path and they're trying to figure it out. That's what I get from the song. But we'll talk with them. Maybe I'm, you know, I mean, art is subjective. My interpretation might not match. Your interpretation might not match what the original idea of the song was. Who knows? But that's one of the exciting things about music. But we're going to go ahead and give this a spin. And then we're going to talk to the fine people from Tiny Magnetic Pets.

15:46 Speaker 19: So Miracle of days unseen Gives your life an optimist Another cautionary tale One that no one thinks to mention

17:16 Speaker 19: Feel like you've lost your guiding light. Do you feel like you've lost your guiding light? Standing on the stage Making a fool of myself as usual.

17:57 Speaker 20: Emotional car crash, all the rage It's funny what you can't get used to.

18:36 Speaker 16: Do you feel.

18:37 Speaker 21: Like you've lost your guiding light?

18:40 Speaker 3: Do you.

18:44 Speaker 22: Feel like you've lost.

18:47 Speaker 21: Your guiding light? Do you feel like you've lost your guiding light?

18:56 Speaker 20: Because I feel like I've lost my guiding light Do you feel like you've lost your mind?

20:09 Speaker 9: Do you feel like you've lost your mind? Do you feel like you've lost.

20:21 Speaker 17: Your mind? Do you feel like you've lost your mind?

20:49 Speaker 2: I don't know how to get you moving on a rainy Saturday morning. That has lost my guiding light again by Tiny Magnetic Pets. Whoops, something else is starting to play. I've got to pull that down. It is a rainy Saturday morning. Apparently, I'm not quite on the ball there. But let's see. We've got the fine people joining us via restream from Tiny Magnetic Pets.

21:09 Speaker 23: Good morning.

21:10 Speaker 2: Let's see. So we've got, I know, I see Paula there.

21:12 Speaker 4: Hi, Paula.

21:16 Speaker 2: Paula Gilmore, of course. Gilmore, rather.

21:18 Speaker 24: I'm sorry.

21:19 Speaker 2: The vocalist for Tiny Magnetic Pets. And then who else do we have with us?

21:24 Speaker 16: Eugene.

21:25 Speaker 23: Eugene, welcome.

21:26 Speaker 24: And Sean.

21:27 Speaker 2: And Sean, welcome. Thank you.

21:29 Speaker 23: Welcome.

21:29 Speaker 2: Okay, so Paula, now obviously you're the vocalist. And then Sean, what do you do in the group?

21:38 Speaker 24: Good question.

21:39 Speaker 25: I play synthesizers and sometimes a bit of guitar whenever.

21:45 Speaker 24: It's called for.

21:46 Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha. And Eugene, what's your role in Tiny Magnetic Pets?

21:52 Speaker 26: I play electronic drums and acoustic drums occasionally.

21:57 Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, excellent. And you're all, all three of you are from Ireland?

22:05 Speaker 24: Yes, yeah.

22:07 Speaker 2: Outstanding. So I want to know more about that song, Lost My Guiding Light, again. You know, I was kind of talking, as I was about to play it, I was talking about how I think it's sort of relatable in that what I get from it is, you know, kind of feeling like, feeling uncertainty, maybe in your career or something, a choice that you've made in life where maybe you feel like you're kind of.

22:32 Speaker 2: You're not sure whether you're on the right path. You're questioning yourself, questioning your choices maybe. What I'm taking from that, is that kind of the idea of the song or am I reading too much into it? Tell me about the song and what the lyrics are about.

22:50 Speaker 25: Well, what you're reading into it is basically what it's about and we're kind of glad that it kind of comes across because a lot of the time our lyrics tend to be a bit abstract or kind of leave them open to interpretation. But with Lost My Guiding Light, again,

23:09 Speaker 25: it's just basically about what you said. Everybody loses their way at some point and you're looking for that, for your guiding light. And it can be anything, whether in my case, losing the head of the bar on stage when we're playing live, I'm looking for the one where I can refocus. Or if you just basically lost your way, whether emotionally, whether spiritually, morally, and you realize you've lost your way and you're looking for a way out and you're looking for that guiding light. And that's where the title of the EP comes into because Astrolux is Latin for starlight.

23:49 Speaker 27: Okay.

23:50 Speaker 25: And it's just based on sailors using the stars to guide themselves. So they were kind of using guiding lights, basically.

23:56 Speaker 28: Okay.

23:57 Speaker 18: Excellent.

23:59 Speaker 24: Navigational star. She's got a star tattooed on her shoulder.

24:01 Speaker 21: Navigational star.

24:02 Speaker 29: Yeah, I think for Guiding Light, and your Guiding Light can be whatever it is, like something totally relatable to you.

24:10 Speaker 21: I mean, for me, music gets me through a lot of things. For other people, it.

24:14 Speaker 29: Can be simply a walk. For somebody else, it can be therapy. So that's what ultimately the song is about. Have you lost your Guiding Light? I'm trying to find that. And I think it's very relatable for the world we live in today and in current times.

24:27 Speaker 30: So, yeah.

24:29 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. And I'm curious, too, about the decision to revisit this, because the reason it's called this version is called Lost My Guiding Light. And then parenthetically, again, is because it's actually the song goes back to 2017. Correct. And this is a this is a new version of it.

24:50 Speaker 25: Yeah, it was where this came about initially was last year we were asked to play an EDM festival here in Dublin. And we were looking at songs that we hadn't played live before, which would work in an EDM setting, but which we could play live. And we dug that one out. But obviously the way it was performed in the studio, the way it was recorded, it needed just a bit more oomph to it. Because basically what you do live and what you do in the studio generally can be, a lot of times can be two different things.

25:27 Speaker 25: something that sounds brilliant on record may fall flat whenever you perform it live, no matter how accurately you perform it on stage. So we thought we'd dance this one up a bit. So we stripped a load of stuff out of it and we just kind of let the sequencers do all the work. But once we had it done, we added the coda and this is a completely different recording now. And we decided to, We would probably release it, record it properly and then release it. And again, in brackets comes from, it's a kind of cheeky reference to Bowie.

26:03 Speaker 25: We're all massive Bowie fans.

26:05 Speaker 31: Yeah.

26:05 Speaker 25: And he had a song called John, I'm Only Dancing. And then he did, a few years later, he did a completely different version of it called John, I'm Only Dancing.

26:13 Speaker 24: Brackets again.

26:14 Speaker 27: Okay.

26:15 Speaker 2: So that was our kind of little.

26:17 Speaker 24: To the man himself.

26:18 Speaker 29: You've got to remember when, like as musicians, it's very, very easy to just, like, we're fortunate we have our own rehearsal studios here in Dublin. And I guess, you know, it's very easy just as musicians just to, you know, Sean might add in something or I'll sing something differently.

26:33 Speaker 21: And we really, really love that.

26:35 Speaker 29: We are a band that likes to explore sounds and we're always, we're always messing around and we're also always changing songs and changing things up. And it keeps the interest for us And as Sean often says, you know, for us going to see artists in concert, we love when things are changed up or extended versions and it keeps the effect for us, particularly in rehearsing. I mean, um, so it's very easy for us to change songs and alter things and maybe add in a different sequence or different sounds or, um, so we've done it with a few songs and we often call them pink and white where pink will be kind of, um, one style and the white would be the others.

27:14 Speaker 29: We've done it, if you look back in our back catalog on all the platforms, you can see that we've done this. This isn't the first time we've done this. We call this one again, but other times we have done like a pink version, a white version, and yeah, it's very TMP style.

27:28 Speaker 21: It's something we love doing.

27:30 Speaker 26: It's also good to get people up on the dance floor, so that's a bonus. It's a bonus for us, so it gets people grooving.

27:37 Speaker 4: Absolutely.

27:38 Speaker 24: I love an old dance beat. It was fine. I not to laugh shoe.

27:43 Speaker 2: No, that's, that's great. Um, I, I like the perspective too of, and this is a subject that actually comes up on the show a lot, but I like the perspective of doing things differently live, making them sound different, different live these songs, because, you know, a lot of artists, uh, kind of try to do the, the opposite, uh, Um, a lot of artists want to replicate whatever they record. They want to come as close to that as they possibly can live because they assume that that's what the audience wants to hear.

28:12 Speaker 2: The audience wants to hear what's on the record. But to me, I've always looked at it as, you know, I, I want to be surprised. And when I go to see, yeah, when I go to see somebody live, I want to hear something, you know, I, I love it when there's something a little different, you know, throw me, throw me a curve. I love that personally.

28:28 Speaker 29: It's our job to entertain and, I think that's an important thing. And if we're buzzed by a change in a song, then we're hoping the audience will be buzzed by something as well. And I like a little bit of unpredictability to the point that I don't even know what I'm going to do on stage half the time.

28:47 Speaker 21: Sometimes I just take off.

28:48 Speaker 24: And do these things.

28:50 Speaker 21: So I love unpredictability. I think it's exciting.

28:53 Speaker 2: Yeah.

28:54 Speaker 25: The danger of not knowing what's going to happen is great. I've seen two of my favorite bands who you've got to show not named And I was in the audience watching to basically recreate the records on stage. And I'm sitting there thinking I could be at home listening to the record.

29:12 Speaker 2: Exactly.

29:14 Speaker 24: Instead of watching it from a million miles away and hearing the record.

29:18 Speaker 4: Yeah.

29:19 Speaker 24: I mean, Eugene and.

29:20 Speaker 29: I were just in Tiers Cologne at the last Depeche Mode concert.

29:26 Speaker 24: And they've done this.

29:27 Speaker 29: Amazing extended versions of Just Can't Get Enough. There's a huge drum breakdown and everything. And it's absolutely amazing, isn't it, Eugene?

29:33 Speaker 21: Like it's, you know.

29:34 Speaker 24: The crowd love it.

29:36 Speaker 21: And you can see the band love it as well.

29:38 Speaker 24: So, yeah, lovely. as well.

29:41 Speaker 26: I personally think the hooks still remain and your certain kind of aspects of the song remain.

29:46 Speaker 24: But you work it differently.

29:51 Speaker 26: We always said, the three of us, we attack the songs differently for life. We attack it these days like a rock band And I think that's very true.

30:01 Speaker 24: You have to perform like a rock band on stage. Whatever kind of music you're playing, you have to attack the stage like you're a rock band.

30:09 Speaker 2: Exactly. It's like Gene Simmons once said in an interview, when you're on stage, you're there to kill. I always love that quote.

30:18 Speaker 28: Hell yeah.

30:20 Speaker 24: I am.

30:23 Speaker 2: Speaking of being on stage, so you've toured with OMD a couple of times, correct?

30:29 Speaker 21: More than a couple of times. We've done about 35 shows maybe with them, easy.

30:35 Speaker 32: Yeah, we did that. We've done Europe. We've done shows with Dave Koenig from The Killers.

30:47 Speaker 24: Oh, okay.

30:50 Speaker 26: Wolfgang featured on our album and also Good Friends of Ours from Craftwork.

30:56 Speaker 25: So yeah, we, you know, We're lucky. We're very lucky. But I think for basically an electronic band, but we live and die on stage. And that's what it's about. We kind of live the live performance. Making the records is one thing. And we actually perform the parts live. Obviously, there's some sequencers at work there because there's only like three of us on stage.

31:22 Speaker 2: Sure.

31:23 Speaker 24: So you have to use sequencers and other things.

31:25 Speaker 25: But essentially, when you see hands moving on stage, we're actually performing stuff And, you know, yeah, you can hear the mistakes and et cetera. Or Eugene will, drumstick will go flying and he has to walk across the stage and pick it up and the drums stop completely.

31:40 Speaker 24: That has happened.

31:41 Speaker 16: Yeah.

31:41 Speaker 4: Yeah.

31:41 Speaker 24: On stage with OMD. Don't ask me where. But it hit off the pad.

31:50 Speaker 26: And at the time I didn't have another set, but I just left the track the other day and I came back and I just, Can I.

31:58 Speaker 25: Point out, I think this was subconsciously deliberate because the night before we were in Manchester.

32:03 Speaker 24: No, we were actually in the roundhouse.

32:06 Speaker 25: Yeah, but we were in Manchester and some guy comes up to Eugene afterwards and he's seen his electronic pad set up and not a regular drum kit. And he said, so are you actually playing that or do you just press play? And Eugene was very hurt. I think it was a kind of psychological thing where the drum stick flew out of his hand so you could hear the drum stop.

32:34 Speaker 2: Well played.

32:35 Speaker 18: Well played.

32:38 Speaker 24: Stuff happens.

32:39 Speaker 26: You can't control what happens live. Personally, I don't do the same unless it's an important fill. But most of the drum fills, I don't repeat them. I just like to have fun.

32:53 Speaker 18: Yeah.

32:53 Speaker 11: Yeah.

32:54 Speaker 2: No, that's, that's great. I'm curious too, Eugene. So are you, this is, um, this is also a subject that comes up a lot on the show, particularly with, uh, some of the guests that we have in our area who join us in studio. Um, are you, are you in multiple projects? Because every drummer that I talk to these days, drummers have become almost, you know, like an endangered species. It seems like, um, every drummer is in multiple projects.

33:20 Speaker 24: Yeah.

33:23 Speaker 26: I have worked with other people but the main focus is TMP but yeah so I agree with you and it's maybe it's just the fact that like you know well I program stuff I write my own songs so does Sean so does Paula so yeah but like the main focus is TMP but yeah you're right I have been asked in the past to work with different people and that's cool but yeah I always come home to TM.

33:55 Speaker 28: No.

33:55 Speaker 21: We all do.

33:57 Speaker 30: Yeah.

33:58 Speaker 25: We've all done kind of stuff with other people, but TMP is the main thing.

34:02 Speaker 33: That's what it's all about.

34:03 Speaker 16: Sure.

34:05 Speaker 31: Yep.

34:06 Speaker 4: Absolutely.

34:06 Speaker 2: And did I read something too about, um, I forget his last name. Oh, Tony Dorney of Republica. You've worked with him.

34:14 Speaker 30: Is that correct?

34:15 Speaker 16: Yeah.

34:15 Speaker 28: Yeah.

34:17 Speaker 24: That's right.

34:18 Speaker 2: Oh, Tim Dorney.

34:20 Speaker 28: Gotcha.

34:21 Speaker 25: Yeah.

34:21 Speaker 29: He, um, would master a lot of our tracks and he did Guiding Light and the last EP. And yeah, we're good friends and we're actually sharing stage with him in, when is it?

34:35 Speaker 24: Taunton in the UK next year.

34:38 Speaker 29: He's doing an electronic festival and another project he's in.

34:42 Speaker 21: We'll both be on the same stage.

34:43 Speaker 24: The festival next year is called Electronic Summer.

34:47 Speaker 2: Okay.

34:48 Speaker 24: Electric Summer. I beg your pardon, Electric Summer. Confirmed it.

34:54 Speaker 21: Festivals are great.

34:58 Speaker 25: He's a brilliant mixer.

35:04 Speaker 24: He mixed our last EP, Harmonious Grey. He did a fantastic job on both of them.

35:09 Speaker 33: Yeah, he's great.

35:10 Speaker 24: Very patient as well.

35:12 Speaker 2: Is he?

35:12 Speaker 34: Is he?

35:13 Speaker 2: That's good, yeah. What is it that he brings as far as, like, does he hear something in the music that you don't necessarily? Is he able to pull something out of it that maybe you weren't expecting? Does he surprise you at all when you're working with him?

35:27 Speaker 27: Yeah.

35:29 Speaker 24: Yes, he has done that in the past.

35:31 Speaker 26: Like, he's a real effects man, and, like, he'd add, like, dub delays and kind of dubby kind of vibe to it. where we wouldn't may have thought of it or just, uh, let something fly. And we just go, Oh, hang on. What did you do back there? And something to carry on. So he brings exciting little air candy to the table.

35:51 Speaker 25: Also, we were just talking about, uh, lost my guiding light again, uh, just before we came on air. And one of the things he did with that is he faded the drums out at the end. So it kind of ends on kind of nice kind of ambient string washes, which was, um, Really nice, really nice touch.

36:07 Speaker 24: We hadn't thought of that.

36:08 Speaker 16: Yeah.

36:09 Speaker 24: So that was good as well. So he'd do things like that.

36:12 Speaker 25: He'd put little kind of bits in there, some white noise sweeps that he's thrown in there. We don't mind people just getting involved with stuff we have.

36:23 Speaker 24: It's important to be creative.

36:25 Speaker 23: Yeah.

36:25 Speaker 29: He tends to do our EPs and then our albums. Katie Tavini, who would be a very renowned master, she's doing our forthcoming album, we worked with, with Gareth Jones producing. And before that, we abused an American guy, um, chicky to mix, uh, our master, our songs. We, we use different people for our albums and then we used him for, um, the last few EPs.

36:49 Speaker 21: It's kind of the way it's been, isn't it?

36:51 Speaker 30: Yes.

36:52 Speaker 11: Okay.

36:53 Speaker 30: Okay.

36:54 Speaker 18: Wonderful.

36:54 Speaker 2: I'm curious too. So, you know, obviously a song like, uh, lost my guiding light again. Um, you know, there's, there's, uh, you know, music is subjective and of course it's however you choose to interpret it. And we, you know, we talked about what the song means, but is it ever a challenge, you know, making this kind of music, whether you want to call it synth wave or whatever, you know, this kind of electronic music without like, do you ever worry about kind of losing the humanity in it at all? I mean, obviously I'm a fan of this kind of music.

37:23 Speaker 2: I love many different genres of music, but some people who don't care for it, they, they feel like they'll, they'll tell you, and I'm sure you've had these conversations with people. They'll say, they might say, well, that's not really my thing because I don't, I don't hear the humanity in it. I need, you know, I need guitars or whatever it is that I need. Um, is that ever a concern for you as you're making this music, kind of maintaining the humanity?

37:45 Speaker 31: No.

37:47 Speaker 24: Make this for yourself. You know, make this for yourself.

37:50 Speaker 21: It's not, it's not for others. You hope others will like it. And we have a really nice fan base. Absolutely latch onto it.

37:57 Speaker 24: Come to all our gigs. It's so amazing.

37:59 Speaker 29: Um, I wouldn't, I think I could never imagine trying to make music specifically to order.

38:07 Speaker 21: To other people.

38:08 Speaker 2: Right, right.

38:09 Speaker 21: We just make it. It's a TMP sound. Like it or don't like it.

38:13 Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah.

38:13 Speaker 21: Keep making it.

38:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's the right attitude.

38:16 Speaker 28: I don't really care.

38:17 Speaker 21: If I'm 100% happy with a tune.

38:19 Speaker 29: I don't really care what other people think, not being in a bad way. But if I'm happy with it, and Sean's happy, and Eugene's happy, and James is happy, we go, right, cool, song, done, happy.

38:31 Speaker 18: Yeah.

38:31 Speaker 4: Out it goes.

38:32 Speaker 21: We're on to the next one.

38:34 Speaker 2: Yeah.

38:34 Speaker 25: And the thing is that people know, they see the word synthesizer and they just think of knobs, switches, dials. And then that instantly, that's a psychological thing.

38:45 Speaker 18: Right.

38:46 Speaker 24: It's scary.

38:47 Speaker 30: Yes.

38:48 Speaker 24: Look at the killers.

38:49 Speaker 25: I'm sure people were saying the same thing about the electric guitar whenever it happened. But also, I would point out something like Hammond Organ. A synthesizer is cold and it's a machine. A Hammond organ is like emotional feeling. A Hammond organ, the only kind of expression you have with a Hammond organ is a volume pedal and whether or not to switch a revolving speaker on and off and a bit of distortion at key things. A synthesizer, you've got kind of modulation wheels. You can bend it. You can play it like an electric guitar or a violin.

39:23 Speaker 25: It's touch sensitive. You can have all sorts of control over the expression of it. But people just hear, oh, it's machine learning. and they just kind of like write write it off as kind of cold i would say listen to the opening of uh ricochet part two by tangerine dream and tell me there's no humanity or emotion in that right right that's just saying you're.

39:44 Speaker 29: You know, Future Islands, The Killers, they're all quite synth-laden, heavily synth-laden.

39:49 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.

39:49 Speaker 21: So they don't kind of get thrown into those kind of groups, but they have loads of synths going.

39:53 Speaker 30: On in them.

39:55 Speaker 24: I have to add one more thing to that.

39:58 Speaker 26: Like, Kraftwerk were called, like, robotic, but didn't they groove on stage when they played live?

40:04 Speaker 31: Exactly.

40:05 Speaker 24: They danced, they grooved. So it was a hell of a lot of emotion in that. And that's what we do as well. Like, obviously.

40:12 Speaker 26: I play to a click track to keep us kind of in with the sequencers.

40:17 Speaker 35: Yeah.

40:18 Speaker 24: I can play around the click. I can pull it back.

40:19 Speaker 26: I can push it forward. And I don't even think it's there sometimes. So you play around things to make it move. And that's what we do. And that's what makes it human.

40:35 Speaker 2: Absolutely.

40:35 Speaker 24: I'd say anybody who thinks there's no emotion, come and watch us live.

40:42 Speaker 2: Right, right. And I would say, too, you know, to anyone who thinks that, you know, well, if it's not, you know, loud guitars and a full drum kit and all that, you know, anything that you listen to that was recorded in a studio, there's a lot of technology involved in anything you listen to. You know, and that's something people need.

41:01 Speaker 4: To remember, too.

41:02 Speaker 21: I hope that Eugene plays a full kit.

41:04 Speaker 24: I mean, Eugene absolutely can play.

41:07 Speaker 23: A full kit.

41:08 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.

41:09 Speaker 2: No doubt. No doubt.

41:11 Speaker 25: My main instrument is lead guitar. I'm a lead guitarist. That's my main thing. But my mood will blow with any guitar player off the stage.

41:22 Speaker 21: We actually have a lot of guitar on these tracks. There is actually a lot of guitar on them.

41:27 Speaker 29: So it's on Guiding Light again as well.

41:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

41:31 Speaker 21: Check it out if you want to, everybody.

41:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would encourage people to check it out. I do love that song. Where does the name come from, by the way? The obligatory question that I used to always open interviews with this, but now I've learned to try to push it toward the end. But where does the name Tiny Magnetic Pets come from?

41:50 Speaker 24: Every time you think of a really cool name.

41:53 Speaker 25: And you put it out there, you find out that some American band with a legal team has got the same name, and you have to change yours.

42:03 Speaker 24: I was flicking through a.

42:07 Speaker 25: Toy catalogue, and there's a Japanese toy called Tiny Pets, and they've got magnets inside them, and they stick together. They literally are tiny plastic things. But the toy catalogue made they misprinted the name as tiny magnetic pets and i thought that's a name for a band that nobody else in the world is going to want so because it's awful so what do we call tiny magnetic pets and yeah that it's stuck and people tend to remember it um which is good but And.

42:45 Speaker 21: Robsy also called the pets their TMP as well.

42:47 Speaker 24: He called the pets their TMP. Tiny Magnetic Pets we got called.

42:51 Speaker 36: Tiny Magnetic Pets.

42:52 Speaker 21: Tiny Magnetic Prats.

42:53 Speaker 24: Prats. Tony Magnetic Pets. Pets, we got that one as well.

42:58 Speaker 31: Yeah.

42:58 Speaker 24: But, yeah, I mean, it's a name.

43:00 Speaker 25: It's no kind of ACDC or Electric Light Orchestra or anything like that or Pink Floyd, but it's a name.

43:07 Speaker 2: No, I like it. I like it. I think it's a cool name.

43:09 Speaker 24: Nobody else has it?

43:11 Speaker 2: I think it's a very cool name. As we begin to wrap up, and in a moment I'm going to play, I'm going to end our conversation with Low Places, the Decane remix. Am I saying that name right, Decane? That's Paul Decane, right?

43:26 Speaker 24: Yeah, Paul Decane.

43:27 Speaker 2: Paul Decane?

43:27 Speaker 24: Correct, yes.

43:28 Speaker 2: How did this come about, this remix? Actually, there's two of them.

43:36 Speaker 24: I don't know if it's Paul or Decane. Over to you, Paula.

43:40 Speaker 21: Oh, yeah. I was at.

43:43 Speaker 29: So friends of ours run a blog called Electronic Cafe, and annually they put on a show.

43:49 Speaker 21: We played at it a few times, and I went over to.

43:51 Speaker 29: That the last year, and Paula Duquesne was actually doing the DJing at it, and through a mutual friend of mine, Nick, introduced me to Paul, and Paul and Paula chatted, and... kind of what happens in this community everyone is very very everyone's up for doing things and uh remixes and collaborations.

44:16 Speaker 21: It's really really exciting yeah so yep we.

44:18 Speaker 29: Just got talking and um he suggested doing that he said i really like low places um and he's done on our instagram if you scroll back a little he there's a little bit where he does a little breakdown of what he did and it's really interesting on how he added the dynamics of the song and how he built it so um uh Yeah, you can, if you want to have a look at that. But anyway, that's how that came about. And I think we're doing a little bit more with them, hopefully, the end.

44:45 Speaker 21: Of this year.

44:46 Speaker 2: Outstanding. Very, very good. And before we wrap up, too, I want to make sure our listeners will know, where's the best place to go online to keep up with everything? Everything that Tiny Magnetic Pets is up to, where should they go online?

44:59 Speaker 21: Well, you can subscribe to tinymagneticpets.com. You can sign up or run every platform.

45:04 Speaker 30: Perfect.

45:05 Speaker 24: The usual suspects.

45:07 Speaker 18: Perfect.

45:07 Speaker 24: Is it tiny, many pets.com or TMP official.com.

45:10 Speaker 23: Okay.

45:11 Speaker 21: I got a pet official or TMP official.com.

45:15 Speaker 30: Okay.

45:15 Speaker 35: Join us.

45:17 Speaker 25: We're all, all streaming platforms as well. And you can visit our band camp if you want CD vinyl or any kind of physical kind of additions, which we totally recommend.

45:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, too, I'm glad you're on Bandcamp. I'm a big proponent of Bandcamp. Very, very artist-friendly platform, which is great. And also what a lot of people don't realize, too, is when you get your music from Bandcamp, you get a high-quality file more so than, say, if you're just streaming it on YouTube or whatever. So Bandcamp is amazing. I love Bandcamp, absolutely. So I'm glad you're on there.

45:52 Speaker 24: Yeah, plus you sell merch on there as well, which is great.

45:56 Speaker 25: We sold a lot of T-shirts and a lot of stuff.

45:58 Speaker 24: Beanies, et cetera. And so, sorry, it sounds like I'm doing sell, sell, sell here.

46:04 Speaker 2: No, that's okay. That's all right. That's okay. We want our, we want our audience to know about it. Well, listen, I want to thank all three of you, of course, Paula, Sean, Eugene. Thank you all.

46:14 Speaker 4: Absolutely.

46:15 Speaker 2: We will do this again in the future because obviously, you know, you're going to keep releasing new music. And, uh, so we'd love to have you back. Um, and, uh, like i said i love i love that song uh lost my guiding light again and uh we're gonna play low low places the decaying remix i really like this too um so uh we'll let you go tiny magnetic pets thank you so much and uh we'll talk to you soon i'm.

46:36 Speaker 24: Sure all right you.

46:40 Speaker 2: Too bye-bye all right tiny magnetic pets and let's give this a spin uh this is low places this is uh the decaying remix i really like this.

49:57 Speaker 9: So let's get wrecked.

51:17 Speaker 2: That's a DePaul to Kane remix of Low Places from Tiny Magnetic Pets. And thank you again to the band for joining us. We've got, let's see, let's see if he's still there. I think we've got Malcolm Wood from Legion of Solace on the line. This is a surprise. Hey, Malcolm.

51:31 Speaker 34: Yes, sir.

51:32 Speaker 2: Hey, you're on the air.

51:32 Speaker 4: Welcome.

51:34 Speaker 31: Welcome to my air, too.

51:36 Speaker 28: Yeah.

51:37 Speaker 2: Oh, you're doing your show right now?

51:40 Speaker 31: No, I'm going to be doing it here a little bit. I was just picking.

51:42 Speaker 37: Oh, okay.

51:43 Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on?

51:45 Speaker 31: Not so much. I just wanted to call and miss you guys. I actually wanted to send out a reminder out there in New Hampshire, all the way from Lynchburg, that if you are in the area of Taunton, Mass., October 30th, come check out the Green Jello, Grillo, Under the Horizons, and all those guys. It's going to be an amazing show. We're working on a lot of things. The contest is still going on. I just wanted to send out a nice little reminder and actually call you all and tell you I'll miss you too. I'm sitting here watching the show and I just I was like, man, I miss those guys.

52:15 Speaker 31: I just wish I was back up there to hang out with them. So I just figured I'd call in and send out a little reminder shot and tell everybody to go check out Leeds of the Solace and what we are, Larder Entertainment. And, you know, just come talk to us. Come hit us up. If you have any ideas, we are all open to any and everything. We just wanted to, like I said, we just wanted to call in and Give a nice little reminder and say hello to everybody out there in New Hampshire because I miss the area.

52:39 Speaker 24: Absolutely.

52:39 Speaker 2: Hey, it was great seeing you last weekend at Swarmy Fest and having you guys on the show. And, yeah, it was a great time last Saturday, Malcolm. And, yeah, you guys are doing great stuff. Wonderful to have you here. And do you want to plug your show, too? You said you're going to be doing your show soon?

52:58 Speaker 31: Yeah, tomorrow around 11 or 12 I'll be doing it on TikToks. uh, it'll be on my personal page, like I said, until I get my own page set up. Because obviously I did it wrong the last time.

53:08 Speaker 24: Yeah.

53:09 Speaker 31: Me trying to move too quickly to hurry up and set it up. You know, technology.

53:12 Speaker 4: I know.

53:13 Speaker 2: Oh, believe me, I, I, I know the pain. Absolutely.

53:17 Speaker 14: Yes, sir.

53:17 Speaker 31: So, uh, it will be Malcolm Wood, M-A-L-C-O-L-M-E on TikTok, W-O-O-D. Um, you can find me there. Um, and like I said, it's, like, it's kind of like True Fire Radio. Like I said, I've been able to set it up to where I can, uh, repost my uh my lives but i mean it kind of gives you the experience too so i kind of like it right now so far but uh absolutely tomorrow around 11 or 12 ish i'll be doing my radio shows.

53:43 Speaker 2: Okay outstanding outstanding well we'll uh we'll keep an eye out for that and i wish you continued success with that and and of course uh you play a lot of great stuff on there so i do encourage people to check it out and um we'll let you go malcolm we got to get to a break but thank you so much for calling man this was a cool surprise i appreciate the.

54:00 Speaker 18: Call Always, brother.

54:02 Speaker 31: Like I said, I love watching the show, so I've got to call.

54:04 Speaker 28: In the support.

54:05 Speaker 18: Wonderful, wonderful.

54:06 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, my friend. We'll talk to you soon, I'm sure.

54:09 Speaker 31: Talk to you soon, brother.

54:10 Speaker 21: Okay.

54:10 Speaker 31: Bye-bye.

54:11 Speaker 4: All right.

54:12 Speaker 2: That was Malcolm Wood from Legion of Solace. And of course, they were on the show with us here last week. Let's see, that was during the first, yeah, the first hour. If you want to go back and check it out, I highly encourage that. And Legion of Solace, not a band, by the way, if you're not familiar, the name sounds like a band, but no, they do promotions for, you know, they do a lot of concert promotion and helping people to uh... promote their music market their music and so forth they're doing really big stuff so and uh...

54:43 Speaker 2: sounds like they had a big show coming up in taunton massachusetts on the thirtieth uh... so did you say october september look that up uh... almost be october right yeah october that would make sense because i think october Yeah, because Halloween's on a Saturday this year, so it must have been October 30th, Friday, October 30th. All right, very good. Always nice to hear from Malcolm. He's a great guy. And check out his show on TikTok. We've got to take a break, show some love to our amazing sponsors.

55:09 Speaker 2: And then on the other side of that, we've got more. If you're just listening live on Saturday, we've got more to come. Trust me, we've got a couple more great guests. We're also going to seek in some music for some of the bands performing tonight, the big show at Terminus Underground, very important show to benefit one of the great organizations here on the road to wellness right here in Manchester, New Hampshire, that does great things helping people with mental health. So we've got a lot to do in the next couple of hours as we near the end of our number one numero uno on Matt Connerton Unleashed.

55:43 Speaker 2: But stick around, plenty more to come. Are you ready to make a change in your life? My name is Matt Connerton, and I'm a certified hypnotherapist. Hypnosis can help you change habits, overcome obstacles, and reach your goals. Sessions are available online or in person. at Birchwood Salon in Hooksett. And your initial consultation is always free. Visit mattconnerton.com. That's Matt, C-O-N-N-A-R-T-O-N.com to learn more or book your appointment. That's mattconnerton.com.

56:24 Speaker 18: Nana's Kitchen and Pizzeria.

56:27 Speaker 38: From Nana's hands to your plate, tradition, love, and taste that's great.

56:34 Speaker 19: Slow fermented dough, flavors so true.

56:40 Speaker 39: Each bite a story made just for you.

56:47 Speaker 33: 603-232-9366.

56:48 Speaker 18: Nana's Kitchen and Pizzeria, 15 Dartmouth Drive, Auburn, New Hampshire.

57:03 Speaker 2: Need a ride? Xtrilly is now available in New Hampshire, offering an easy, reliable way to get where you're going. With Xtrilly, the price you see is the price you pay. One clear price, no surprises. Visit Xtrilly.com slash ride 953 to register. That's X-T-R-I-L-L-I dot com slash ride 953.

57:35 Speaker 40: In times of crisis, you need a law firm that stands by your side. With over 40 years of experience, Craig & Gatsoulis is dedicated to fighting for your rights. As former state prosecutors, our attorneys have the knowledge and trial experience to provide an aggressive defense against any charge, from DUIs to homicides. If you've been injured, our compassionate team will assess your case and fight for the compensation you deserve. Serving all of New Hampshire, Craig and Getsoulis is here when you need us most.

58:03 Speaker 40: Visit craiggetsoulis.com for a free consultation. Craig and Getsoulis, your advocates, your allies.

58:09 Speaker 41: Bring your kitchen to life with Queen City Cabinetry. Located at 87 Elm Street in the historic Sunbeam Mall in Manchester. Open Monday through Friday.

58:20 Speaker 33: 9 a.m. to 5.30 p.m. and Saturdays, 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. They can be reached at 603-222-2007 or on the web at queencitycabinetrynh.com. Come see the possibilities.

58:37 Speaker 41: Queen City Cabinetry, another proud sponsor of WMNH.

58:42 Speaker 35: Hey, everyone.

58:43 Speaker 42: This is Rob Azevedo, host of Granite State of Mind, and I want to tell you about Pembroke City Limits and the historic Suncook Village. PCL is an award-winning bar, restaurant, and music venue where there's live music five days a week and twice on Saturdays. Everything from blues, country, folk, funk, and a whole lot of jazz. We have 12 craft beers on tap dedicated to local brewers in the area and some of the friendliest bartenders around. Please, come visit Pembroke City Limits at 134 Main Street, the historic Sunkook Village.

59:09 Speaker 42: only six miles outside of Manchester. Open Tuesdays to Wednesdays, 4 to 10. Thursdays to Sunday, 11 to 10.

59:17 Speaker 43: Pembroke City Limits, where it's all about the music.

59:19 Speaker 44: Diz's Cafe is the place to put a smile on your face.

59:23 Speaker 33: Judy and the crew will take care of you, bring your appetite, and treat your.

59:27 Speaker 45: Taste buds right. Diz's Cafe is always a winning choice. Breakfast, lunch, or supper.

59:33 Speaker 44: Diz's Cafe at 860 Elm Street in downtown Manchester. Dine in, take out, or make a reservation.

59:40 Speaker 27: Call 603- When it comes to keeping WMNH on the air and your own personal or business computer needs, trust Groland Computers. Located on Elm Street in Manchester, Groland handles computer repair, virus removal, and custom-built systems. Are you looking for budget-friendly options? Check out our selection of fully inspected used computers. We offer tailored, on-site solutions. No unnecessary expenses here. Visit Groland.com or call Groland Computers at 603-645-0101. Your tech, your way. Trust Groland Computers.

1:00:23 Speaker 21: Seven times out of ten, we listen to our music at night.

1:00:36 Speaker 4: Thus spawned the.

1:00:36 Speaker 17: Title of this program.

1:00:38 Speaker 34: Late Night Delight with DJ Midas right here on WMNH Manchester.

1:00:42 Speaker 4: You want to know why?

1:00:43 Speaker 6: Because I'm on the radio.

1:00:45 Speaker 44: Saturdays and Sunday nights, midnight to 4 a.m.

1:00:49 Speaker 18: This hour on WMNH is sponsored by CGI Business Solutions, located at 5 Dartmouth Drive in Auburn. They serve all your business needs, including employee benefits planning, corporate design and business administration, investments and wealth management, and customized business insurance solutions. Their phone number is 866-841-4600 or on the web at cgibusinesssolutions.com.

1:01:21 Speaker 46: Behold the harmony of airwaves as you immerse yourself in the captivating frequencies of WMNHLP.

1:01:28 Speaker 23: The sonic heartbeat of Manchester.

1:01:30 Speaker 46: Transcending through the ether at 95.3 megahertz frequency modulation. Our transmissions emanate from the zenith of 1000 Elm Street. Venture into the heart of our creative realm at 119 Canal Street.

1:01:42 Speaker 23: Where innovation and sound collide.

1:01:45 Speaker 46: We bear the imprimatur of Manchester Public Television Service in the venerable city of Manchester, New Hampshire, USA. Enrich your auditory journey with the depth of our licensed residents. Dispatch your missives to WMNH953 at gmail.com or traverse the virtual corridors of WMNHradio.org. Engage with our sonic vibrations by communing with us through the digital channels your radio beckons. eager to enthrall you with its mesmerizing cadence and envelop you in a symphony of boundless auditory wonder.

1:02:20 Speaker 31: WMNH.

1:02:21 Speaker 47: Rip the knob off.

1:02:39 Speaker 48: When I'm sitting down and out on your throne And nothing else matters to.

1:02:50 Speaker 16: Me tonight.

1:02:55 Speaker 48: I got a battle of pride burning through my veins.

1:03:03 Speaker 16: And nothing's gonna bring you back.

1:03:06 Speaker 49: This way again When I put my.

1:03:12 Speaker 48: Loving down On the line I dream of you at night You fill my mind.

1:03:26 Speaker 50: Some days I feel so lost I spend in time

1:03:35 Speaker 50: Nothing's gonna bring you back this way again.

1:03:44 Speaker 48: And when I call you on the telephone, it just rings.

1:03:53 Speaker 16: I know you're never home.

1:03:56 Speaker 48: I'm lost in time, but I don't mind Cause now.

1:04:01 Speaker 4: I see it's up to me.

1:04:04 Speaker 9: Tonight Tonight.

1:04:12 Speaker 49: Cause now I see.

1:04:14 Speaker 4: It's up to me tonight.

1:04:36 Speaker 49: Now I lost myself inside another time I.

1:04:44 Speaker 16: Leave everything I've owned all behind.

1:04:52 Speaker 48: Wishing I was there by your side And nothing's gonna bring you back this way again.

1:05:05 Speaker 9: And when I call you on the telephone.

1:05:17 Speaker 4: It just rings, I know.

1:05:19 Speaker 16: You're never home.

1:05:22 Speaker 48: I'm lost in time But I don't mind Cause now I see it's.

1:05:28 Speaker 9: Up to me tonight Tonight.

1:05:54 Speaker 4: Tonight. Tonight.

1:06:01 Speaker 9: Tonight.

1:06:35 Speaker 2: Oh, what a great sound. I really like that song a lot. That is tonight. That is Sam Lapidese, but we're going to find out if I'm saying his last name correctly. Hey, Sam, welcome to the show.

1:06:43 Speaker 4: Thanks.

1:06:45 Speaker 47: How you doing, Matt?

1:06:46 Speaker 23: Good, good.

1:06:46 Speaker 2: Am I in the ballpark with your last name?

1:06:49 Speaker 47: It's Lapidus, but it's been butchered many times.

1:06:54 Speaker 2: Oh, I can imagine. Lapidas.

1:06:57 Speaker 47: Yeah, no problem there.

1:06:58 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. Well, I'm excited to talk to you. Welcome to the show. I do love that song. It's a little sad, though. It's a little melancholy, but I like it. I love your voice, and I really like the guitar work on that, too. Please.

1:07:13 Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1:07:14 Speaker 2: I know that this is the second single that you've released recently, right? Because you've also got Kisses in My Pocket, which we're actually going to play later at the end of our conversation.

1:07:23 Speaker 17: Yes.

1:07:24 Speaker 2: But, um, but do these two songs, do they, do they go together in a way or they, are they related or, or do they just happen to be, uh, uh, follow the pattern of singles that you've released lately?

1:07:36 Speaker 47: Uh, they're distant cousins, I'd say. Cause, uh, um, tonight was a song that I'd worked on for, I had it kicking around for a while, like in a couple of years. And it was kind of a result of, you know, getting off a tour in Europe and just having a hard, you know, meeting somebody, having a hard time coming back and just getting back into the regular life that I was leading. And Kisses in My Pocket was more of, you know, literally it came to me in a dream. I mean, I woke up in the morning and I was I started I grabbed my guitar, which happens sometimes, but it never seems to work out like it did that time.

1:08:24 Speaker 16: Yeah.

1:08:24 Speaker 47: And I kind of just, you know, wrote the chorus, you know, had the chorus in my head already. So kind of did that. And, you know, the rest of it just kind of flowed out. I mean, it was it was one of those songs. That song was one of those songs you write in, you know, five minutes or 10 minutes total. And you're like, OK, yeah, I think it's done.

1:08:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's kind of implied. It sounds like tonight, actually, was that the opposite? Did that take a long time to finish?

1:08:52 Speaker 16: Yeah.

1:08:52 Speaker 47: I mean, it took me a while to write. And then I just kept thinking, oh, you know, there's something missing and this and that. and you know finally um you know I I brought it to a band I was working with and they were kind of like yeah whatever and then I started working with uh Bill Bill Lloyd um from he's it's not the Bill Lloyd from Nashville but a different Bill Lloyd okay Um, and he, um, he ended up, uh, listening to and going, yeah, this is great.

1:09:24 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:09:24 Speaker 47: Let's work with this. And he came up with that, you know, beautiful guitar part that he does and, uh, you know, the solo, and it just kind of came together pretty easily, you know? So it was, um, I mean, in that sense, it was, it was great because, uh, you know, kisses in my pocket was, was, was easy. Um, in the sense of coming up with it tonight was like, you know, a long time figuring out what to do with it and then bringing it to somebody who kind of saw a vision with it and kind of went with it and, and did it justice as far as I'm concerned.

1:10:01 Speaker 46: Right.

1:10:02 Speaker 4: Right.

1:10:02 Speaker 2: Well, it's a great song. So I would agree. Um, you've, you've been at this for a long time writing songs, right? Like how, how do you know when a song is done?

1:10:13 Speaker 4: Um, I mean, Usually.

1:10:17 Speaker 47: Well, I mean, over the years, I've had many ways of figuring that out.

1:10:21 Speaker 18: Yeah.

1:10:22 Speaker 47: Used to be I always had to figure a bridge, you know, and then when I had the bridge, it was over like the interlude. Whereas now I'm just, you know, I figure if, you know, I have something to say, I say it, there's a chorus, you know. I'll listen to it. I'll record it. I mean, now it's so easy to record anywhere on your phone and you can walk around listening to it and, you know, you kind of get a sense. And I think that's as radio, as people that listen to radio know, the more, you know, something is played, you know, people kind of their ears open up to it.

1:10:59 Speaker 47: So, you know, it's, you know, kind of, I guess, listening to it more and more is a good way to know when it's done too, you know?

1:11:09 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:11:09 Speaker 47: If that makes sense.

1:11:10 Speaker 18: It does.

1:11:11 Speaker 24: It does.

1:11:12 Speaker 2: Although, you know, I've heard some artists say too, if they, if they work on a song for too long or if they hear it too many times, they start to get sick of it. And then the, there almost becomes this sort of the law of diminishing returns. If you work on, you know, really labor on something, trying to get it, trying to get it perfect or what you think perfection is or, or something close to perfect because that, you know, music really should never be perfect necessarily. But, um, um, but you probably, I mean, I would assume over, you know, something like 40 years, you've probably got songs that, um, you know, that go way back that you, that you haven't finished and maybe revisit from time to time or, or maybe not.

1:11:48 Speaker 51: I don't know.

1:11:48 Speaker 2: I'm curious about that.

1:11:50 Speaker 47: Yeah. I, I mean, I can think of, definitely think of one right now that I've, uh, you know, I've kicked around for years and I'm always like, ah, I don't know, you know, maybe that's another one that I can, uh, bring to Bill and he'll be like, I think there's something here, you know?

1:12:07 Speaker 4: Right.

1:12:07 Speaker 47: And, you know, it could become something from that, which would be great. But yeah, you know, I will say after all these years, it is harder in some ways because your expectations are greater. You're also wanting to make sure that it's good enough, you know, that fits what you're doing or you've done. So it's almost harder to really come up with, you know, new ideas or new things. I mean, it does get more difficult. I mean, you just have to keep working at it a little harder. You know, when I was younger, it's, it was almost like, uh, it was so easy.

1:12:47 Speaker 47: You know, you always hear about bands. Oh, we wrote like 20 songs in a month, you know, and we recorded our album and that's always the story they tell you. And, uh, you know, it's kind of interesting because, um, it's, it is, there is some truth that it is. I think there is a sense when you're really young, you're, you're new in the world and you're excited and you have so much to say. And, you know, if you're a songwriter, you tend to write, you know, a lot of songs and, and lyrics and whatnot, you know, and you're, you're very on, there's no filters in your world.

1:13:21 Speaker 47: So it makes it easier because you think you're so you're the next greatest thing that's going to, that's been in the world. So it's, it's easy to kind of go with it.

1:13:30 Speaker 24: Right, right.

1:13:31 Speaker 2: No, that makes sense. That makes sense. Um, how's, how has the music business affected you too over these years? Because again, it's, it's been a long time. Have you, have you become cynical or are you still able to hold on to, to, uh, optimism or, or how is that? Especially because we're in a time right now, you know, with AI, especially we're in one of those, those really, I think anyway, that we're in one of those really transformative moments in the music industry. I liken it to, On the scale of back when, you know, late 90s, early 2000s, when Napster came in and file sharing became a thing and there was this seismic shift in how everything worked.

1:14:10 Speaker 2: I feel like we're in another one of those periods. So I'm curious as you look back and, you know, are you still optimistic? Have you grown cynical? Are you somewhere in between? How do you feel about it all?

1:14:23 Speaker 47: That's a very good question. I'd have to say, you know, when Napster first came out and everybody was excited, I was kind of like, you know, I was one of those people who was like, well, why should you get music for free? You know, what makes you think that?

1:14:38 Speaker 20: Yeah.

1:14:39 Speaker 47: And, you know, to now it's even, you know, it's, it is almost free. I mean, what you get from all the streaming services is minimal compared to what they make. And even, even well-known artists, I mean, you need like millions of, of, listens to really make any money in that sense. And selling CDs has gone out the window. Um, but to AI is a little scary. And I know that, um, you know, I've had friends and bandmates who have played, you know, played around with my songs and said, Hey, check out this song.

1:15:10 Speaker 47: It's a big band song, you know, that I put on, I made AI, you know, I did it on AI and I'm like, wow, that does sound kind of cool. You know what I mean? It's a, I mean, it is a good tool to like, you know, maybe you can change an arrangement of a song, which could be, or speed it up, slow it down. In that sense, it's really good. Um, as far as, um, also the problem, I guess I have too, is the problem of, uh, everybody can record and everybody's a musician, you know, whereas it was, it seems like it's, it's almost less special now than it used to be for me, maybe.

1:15:46 Speaker 18: Yeah.

1:15:46 Speaker 47: Whereas it's, uh, you know, everybody's like, yeah, I'm in a band or my brother's in a band or, You know, my dog's in a band and he barks on cue, you know, things like that. And you're like, oh, I'm sorry. You know, another another another musician and recording was so much more technical. I mean, you had tape and you had a splice. It was much more difficult. So the ease factor is much better now. Am I cynical?

1:16:16 Speaker 21: No.

1:16:17 Speaker 47: Uh, yeah, I mean, it's, you know, you're still, you have ups and downs, you know, I played last night and we were the last band. I actually got home at one o'clock. So about six hours ago.

1:16:27 Speaker 4: Yeah.

1:16:28 Speaker 47: Um, but, uh, you know, it was like being the last band of the night, our drummer's really young and he was like all excited. Like we're headlining. Whereas if you've been, you know, if you know, most people are like, Oh, it's 11 o'clock and I'm going home. So when you're the band at 11, it's, it's kind of like, you're like struggling. trying to keep people there and going so it's uh you know so that but then you know the beautiful thing was you know as much as i was like i was trying to keep my positive attitude on stage and i got off stage and there was like three or four people that came up to me and they said that was i mean your music is so good you know how do i find you and where are you and that and that really kind of made it took away a little bit of the cynicism and made me kind of feel good you know, and, and on top of it, we got, we got paid a little bit of money, which is great in LA at least.

1:17:23 Speaker 36: Yeah.

1:17:23 Speaker 47: You know, these days, which is, you know, it's awesome. So yeah. Cynical.

1:17:29 Speaker 4: Yeah.

1:17:29 Speaker 47: You know, but also I'll, I'll end with this. I don't want to gab too much, but I think that social, you know, Facebook for me has been great because I do a Saturday show every Saturday, Saturdays with Sam, where I just do like one song, sometimes original cover, just do it acoustically. And I've done it for like two years now, and it's been really good. I get quite a few views as far as I'm concerned, which is great.

1:17:56 Speaker 2: Oh, very cool.

1:17:57 Speaker 18: Very cool.

1:17:58 Speaker 2: Have you been doing that for a while? Because a lot of these things, artists started doing these types of things during the pandemic. Is that when this started, or was it more recent?

1:18:08 Speaker 47: You know, I did a few shows in the pandemic, one or two, and I would do like an hour show.

1:18:16 Speaker 4: Yeah.

1:18:16 Speaker 47: And then I just, I didn't do it for a while. And, you know, we were, I was powwowing with my wife about like, you know, what can we, you know, she's an artist, you know, she's a visual artist and a painter. And we were trying to powwow on what we could do to, you know, make our artistic lives more fulfilling. And, you know, we kind of somehow came up with doing a, Saturday show for me on Facebook. And I said, oh, that's cool. That's a great idea. And it just kind of, you know, went from there. And I had a part of it was, I would like learn a, you know, kind of pick up a song sometimes and just go, I kind of know it and, you know, work on it for a few minutes and play it.

1:18:59 Speaker 47: And, you know, it was a bit of a challenge sometimes, but it was fun.

1:19:04 Speaker 2: Um, yeah, we should mention too. So you're, you're in Los Angeles, you're on the West coast, correct?

1:19:09 Speaker 23: Yes.

1:19:09 Speaker 2: So for any, so for anyone who's wondering, you know, because you mentioned, uh, uh, 1am was six hours ago. So we do appreciate you joining us. So, so this is early, this is kind of early for you. So we especially, especially appreciate you being with us, uh, Sam, especially after, after you just played a show last night, but, um, speaking of playing live, I'm curious about this. So you started out as a busker, correct?

1:19:33 Speaker 44: Yes.

1:19:34 Speaker 47: Um, I, God, years ago, I was living in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and I ended up recording just like with a dub deck, you know, a couple songs. And then I had a friend make a better recording with his studio. And, you know, I put it in the local record store, but I was like, oh, you know, we haven't sold any. So I was like, what do I need to do? So I just kind of, there was a place where I could, I could busk. And I also had this girlfriend who said, I think the people that have any guts are the ones that go play in the engineering arch, you know, underneath the engineering school.

1:20:15 Speaker 47: And I was like, all right, I'll take that challenge. And so I started busking there and it was like, you know, it was such a success for me. I mean, it was almost like, it was almost, you know, things went really well so quickly for me there. that it was like, Oh, this is so, you know, music business is so easy. I never thought it would be this easy.

1:20:39 Speaker 46: Right.

1:20:40 Speaker 47: So I was like, wow.

1:20:41 Speaker 4: You know?

1:20:41 Speaker 47: And then, you know, the band came together and we would sell out clubs locally.

1:20:46 Speaker 18: Wow.

1:20:46 Speaker 33: And it was great.

1:20:47 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:20:48 Speaker 47: It was, uh, you know, and it was always from busking. Um, and then I went to Boston for, uh, for two, two stints in Boston where it's a great place to bus. I mean, close by you, you know, you know, Manchester.

1:21:02 Speaker 31: Yep.

1:21:03 Speaker 47: And, uh, It was, you know, just doing that. And also, you know, people would say to me, especially in Boston, they were like, you know, why are you doing this? Why aren't you playing in clubs? And I said, I just looked at them and I said, yeah, but are you going to come?

1:21:18 Speaker 4: Right.

1:21:18 Speaker 47: And they would go, oh. I'm like, yeah, okay, I get your point.

1:21:22 Speaker 23: Right.

1:21:23 Speaker 47: I was like, yeah, I'm bringing the music to you so you can hear it, you know?

1:21:26 Speaker 24: Yeah.

1:21:27 Speaker 47: Because otherwise you're never going to hear it. So that's kind of what got me to busk.

1:21:32 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that is... Oh, go ahead.

1:21:34 Speaker 47: I'm sorry.

1:21:35 Speaker 31: Go ahead.

1:21:36 Speaker 2: Uh, well, I was curious if you feel like you learned things from, from doing that, that you wouldn't have learned, you know, if you, if you were just playing in clubs, but you had never busked, you know, what, what did that teach you that you might not have learned otherwise?

1:21:48 Speaker 47: Oh, I mean, the biggest thing probably was, you know, busking is, you know, it's, you're trying to, you're trying to make money. So a lot of it was what song's, make people react, um, the best, you know? And I mean, I always heard complaints from people. It's funny. I don't know why people always seem to say things to me where it's like, are you trying to goat me? And they would be like, why do all these people in the subways play the same songs over and over again? And I was like, I looked at, you know, I'd look at these people and just be like, well, I try not to do that.

1:22:25 Speaker 47: I'm changing everything. But, you know, a lot of it, I think a lot of it was they figured what song made them, you know, 20 bucks before the next train came versus 50 cents, you know? So it was a good test of like what works.

1:22:41 Speaker 2: Right, right.

1:22:42 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:22:43 Speaker 2: No, that makes a lot of sense. Do you remember the first time, the very first time someone stopped and, you know, put some money in your guitar case or just stopped to really listen and pay attention?

1:22:57 Speaker 47: Um, I'm trying to think, I mean, in, uh, in, I mean, it's, it's very, it's a very different, Ann Arbor was a very different experience because you had a lot of students going to class and, uh, you know, they were passing through. I mean, later in the day people would listen. Um, but, uh, I'm trying to think, I mean, usually, you know, I've always felt like people couldn't say, uh, too much because I knew I was good enough, you know, but I still needed, I still needed to get better. So I don't know.

1:23:34 Speaker 47: I mean, I guess I can't really specifically remember, but I guess I got enough of a positive, um, response that I kept coming back and it didn't scare me away.

1:23:44 Speaker 2: Right.

1:23:44 Speaker 47: So, uh, you know, and there's always, you know, you're always going to encounter somebody who's just, you know, they're just cranky or whatever, and they're going to, you know, say something to you that may not be, you know, as nice as you'd like it to be.

1:23:58 Speaker 33: Sure.

1:23:59 Speaker 47: You know, I've gotten thicker skin as I've gotten a bit, you know, as I've gotten older too, which is, uh, which is great, you know, cause you're like, eh, you know, bad sound, which is, you know, always an issue in clubs you play because either they don't know your music well enough or, uh, they're just not, they're just, they don't care. They're just not that good.

1:24:21 Speaker 23: Right.

1:24:21 Speaker 47: And, uh, you know, you, you kind of, it used to just upset me so much, you know, a bad sound system or this or that. And now I'm like, you know what? All I can do is hope that my point gets across and people get what I'm doing.

1:24:35 Speaker 31: Right.

1:24:36 Speaker 47: And, uh, So, yeah.

1:24:39 Speaker 2: It's a good way to look at it.

1:24:40 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:24:40 Speaker 2: There's only so much that's in your control. And unfortunately, you know, part of human nature is, you know, we like to worry about things that are out of our control. And you do it, you know, as you get older, you kind of learn to let some of that go, or at least some of us do. And I think that's a good thing. You did mention your band, too. So is that the Rotten Liars? Is that the band that you've been playing with?

1:25:03 Speaker 18: Yes.

1:25:04 Speaker 2: Okay.

1:25:04 Speaker 28: Yes.

1:25:05 Speaker 2: And then... Which is a.

1:25:06 Speaker 28: Oh, go ahead.

1:25:07 Speaker 47: No, go ahead.

1:25:08 Speaker 23: Sorry.

1:25:08 Speaker 2: No, I was just curious to know more about it.

1:25:12 Speaker 47: Um, it's, uh, it's changed over the years. I mean, I've worked with Bill Lloyd on and off, um, drummers and bass players have come and gone the current, the current, uh, the current band I'm working with. I really like, I mean, uh,

1:25:30 Speaker 47: it's so nice to have a drummer that really commands the band instead of the band commanding him, which a lot of times I've, I've been in the opposite end where it's like, you know, you're commanding the drummer and you're telling him when to end the song. And this guy is just so like on the money. It's just, it's just such a pleasure. It makes, it makes, it makes you feel so good when you work with people like that. So, you know, the current incarnation is just, you know, it's great. I can't say enough good things, so.

1:26:06 Speaker 2: Is it hard to find a well, let me ask the question this way, because this is a subject that comes up constantly on the show. Like, like every drummer I know is in multiple bands because it's hard to find drummers. Like, is, is your drummer in multiple bands or is he just committed to your band? Or how does, how does that work? Because look, I mean, literally every drummer I know, it's like you, you, there's, there's, they're an endangered species. You can't find drummers. So they end up in multiple projects.

1:26:36 Speaker 47: I always thought it was bass players, but, uh, Yeah, no, I mean, he's, well, this guy is like, he's very talented. I mean, he's a really good guitar player, and he also, he's actually set my guitar up, so he actually has a pretty good skill set.

1:26:52 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:26:53 Speaker 47: You know, he can just, he's a guitar tech, he's a drummer, and he's good at all these things. And I think, you know, he plays in a heavy metal band as a guitar player.

1:27:04 Speaker 51: Okay.

1:27:04 Speaker 47: And I keep saying I want to come see him, and they never tell me exactly where. When he's playing, I'm like, come on, Will. Tell me when it is.

1:27:14 Speaker 47: But it's harder to get good musicians. And I'm pretty forgiving. Maybe that's my fatal flaw, which is I'm like, well, they're good. We can get through this. So sometimes you don't get the best musicians. you settle for second best, so to speak. But I think in this carnation, I'm pretty satisfied.

1:27:43 Speaker 2: Oh, that's excellent. And this started in 2014, is that correct?

1:27:49 Speaker 28: Yeah.

1:27:50 Speaker 18: Okay.

1:27:51 Speaker 47: Yeah, actually, yeah, with a completely different drummer, completely different bass player, completely different guitar player. But that was part of it. I said, you know what, after all these years, I'm not going to say, you know, a band name. I'm just going to keep my name and the Rotten Liars, you know, because it's just easier, you know, because they can change.

1:28:12 Speaker 18: Right, right.

1:28:12 Speaker 2: No, that makes sense. That makes sense. And can you also tell me about working with Steve Wynn of the Dream Syndicate? He produced some of your early releases, correct?

1:28:23 Speaker 28: Yes.

1:28:24 Speaker 27: Okay.

1:28:24 Speaker 47: Yeah, the funny thing with Steve was I was busking in Venice Beach one day with a friend of mine. And in my mind, I always thought the Dream Syndicate was probably one of my you know favorite bands is you know in those days and i was just like oh my god you know and i started playing burn which was off medicine show one of their second release and um you know i would play it now and again and i hadn't played it in a while and i just started playing it one day on the beach and guess who walked by Steve?

1:28:58 Speaker 47: When I was like, Oh my God.

1:29:01 Speaker 28: Yeah.

1:29:02 Speaker 47: And, uh, he was really funny and, uh, very, you know, very, uh, just really nice guy. And, um, you know, I think probably about a year or two later, it kind of came up, um, that, you know, I was doing a record for this Italian label and, uh, kind of, you know, I was doing a cover of burn on it and I figured, um, you know, hey, would you want to produce this and a couple songs? And he was like, yeah, sure, I'd love to. So we kind of worked with him. He gave us a song for our next record to record before he recorded it, which was interesting because he said, you got to do it exactly like this because you're doing it before me.

1:29:47 Speaker 47: So I don't want to have the alternate version. It's my version. So do it like I did it. So that was kind of funny.

1:29:54 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:29:54 Speaker 24: Yeah.

1:29:55 Speaker 47: And then a couple.

1:29:56 Speaker 28: Yeah.

1:29:56 Speaker 47: And there was a few other times where we worked together and did some stuff. So it was always and he's always cordial, you know, very nice and very just a good guy, you know?

1:30:06 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:30:06 Speaker 24: Yeah.

1:30:07 Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's fantastic. And then I'm curious, too, because, again, you've been been at this a long time. How much of your, your early material, like, do you still play songs that you played when you were first starting out playing in clubs and all that?

1:30:24 Speaker 47: Um, some of them I do.

1:30:25 Speaker 33: Yeah.

1:30:26 Speaker 47: I mean, you know, it's, it's, it's the catalog. So you're like, you know, why not? Um, it's funny. My wife is from Detroit and she said she used to, uh, always see kid rock playing, you know, around Detroit. And he always played that one... She said, he just played that one song, you know, for years, which ended up being his big hit. I forgot. It was like in 1999. It was like his really big hit, and it kind of put him on the map. But, you know, it was just funny because it made me think, yeah, I mean, I kind of got it.

1:31:02 Speaker 47: You know, he believed in that song, and he was like, I'm going to keep going. So, yeah, to answer your question, yes, I do... You know, I kind of do old, new, middle, in between. Yeah, some covers sometimes. It just kind of varies.

1:31:17 Speaker 31: Yeah, yeah.

1:31:18 Speaker 2: Outstanding. Um, Sam, in a moment, we're going to, uh, the, the, the time goes quickly. We're going to wrap up in a moment. Like I said, though, we're going to end our conversation, uh, with kisses in my pocket, uh, another great song. And then what's, um, but I'm curious. So you've got these, these singles, what's, what's the current trajectory with these are, are, do you intend to release, uh, uh, do another album or an EP, or are you just going to kind of, you know, we live in an era, in an era, and again, you've been around a long time.

1:31:46 Speaker 2: So, you know, things have changed a lot. We talked about how the music industry has changed and, you know, now a lot of artists just release singles or they release a series of singles that eventually coalesce into an album and sort of the inverse of what it used to be where you'd have an album and then you'd have singles from the album. But what, what's kind of your long-term plan or, or if you have one?

1:32:07 Speaker 47: Uh, I mean, I think, you know, I think that it is singles seem to be easier to do only because, you know, I mean, albums, it's like, then you have to, I mean, do you need a, I don't even know what the answer, answer with an album is. You put it out as like a piece of, uh, you know, metal or vinyl. I know vinyls come back cassettes, unfortunately.

1:32:29 Speaker 2: Too, but, uh, the cassette thing is weird, isn't it?

1:32:33 Speaker 47: Oh my God. It's like, it was horrible then. It's like, why would anybody want to bring those back?

1:32:39 Speaker 2: You don't like the sound. I get, you don't like the sound of tapis with, it's strange isn't it yeah it's very strange yeah vinyl vinyl is nothing sounds better than vinyl uh but you know the warmth but yeah the cassettes do sound uh pretty terrible i think it's more just the novelty of it most most people who buy cassettes i'm sure they're just really big fans of that artist and want to get everything that they do and i'm sure most people don't even have a hell a lot of people don't even have a record player anymore they just buy the vinyl you know because they're a fan and they want to have it to collect it you know what i mean Right.

1:33:13 Speaker 47: Sure.

1:33:14 Speaker 18: Absolutely. Yeah.

1:33:15 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:33:17 Speaker 2: But, um, I don't know.

1:33:18 Speaker 47: I mean, I'll see what happens. I mean, I've done, I've done probably about five or six singles, uh, in the last three years.

1:33:27 Speaker 4: Okay.

1:33:28 Speaker 47: I mean, these, the last two have been, you know, the ones that I've kind of, uh, you know, pushed along a little more, but there was other ones that we just kind of, you know, that I put on Spotify and, uh, itunes and all that so um and you know wherever else you can youtube everywhere yeah um which is a challenge in itself but you know it's uh yeah i mean i'll see what happens i guess if i get enough songs for an album and it makes sense um you know i could do that.

1:34:00 Speaker 2: Right right yeah it's it's almost like uh like you have too many choices now in a way right there's so many different ways to release music now Um, and, and it's interesting to see, you know, the different artists that we talked to on the show, how they, they choose to navigate that. Um, you know, it used to just be so simple, you know, you got an album coming out for a single goes to radio, you know, six to eight weeks before the album, second single after the album comes out, you know, assuming all goes well, there's a second single.

1:34:27 Speaker 2: If not, then that's it. So it's a lot more.

1:34:29 Speaker 47: There was a formula.

1:34:31 Speaker 30: Yes.

1:34:31 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:34:32 Speaker 24: Yes.

1:34:32 Speaker 47: And now it's like, what's the formula? What do we do?

1:34:35 Speaker 30: Right.

1:34:36 Speaker 47: I'm sure like, you know, All the new, you know, up and comings, they're like, oh, this is no problem. You know, we can figure it out. What's wrong with you? But yeah, for people like, you know, yeah, I'm still, I'm still baffled and challenged by it. You know, I just, I just keep doing, you know, keep going, keep doing what I can do, you know.

1:34:56 Speaker 23: Yeah.

1:34:57 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:34:57 Speaker 47: Because it reaches people.

1:34:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the truth is there is no right answer. It's just whatever's working for you as an artist. And, you know, this seems to be working for you. So I think it's great. Sam, one more thing, though, before we let you go, and then we're going to hit that track. But where's the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that you're doing?

1:35:18 Speaker 47: Probably would be iTunes, Facebook, Sam Lapidus, or Sam Lapidus and the Rotten Liars. Um, either one of those places, um, Instagram, um, those are probably, you know, any social media is probably the best and YouTube, YouTube, because you can, you know, you can hear, but for where I'm playing and stuff, probably Facebook and Instagram.

1:35:44 Speaker 2: Yep and i would encourage artists i mean uh i'm sorry i would encourage uh listeners to uh get the music on bandcamp if you can because bandcamp is um i'm glad that you're on there because it's i'm a big proponent of it it's so artist friendly and also what a lot of people don't realize is you actually get a higher quality file from bandcamp than you do say if you're just streaming it on on youtube or whatever so um I'm a big fan of a big fan of band camp. So I'm glad that your stuff is on there too.

1:36:11 Speaker 2: Um, well, yeah, well, this has been wonderful. We're going to play that song kisses in my pocket. So we'll let you go. Sam Lapidus. Did I get it right? you got it oh wonderful sam lapidus thank you so much for joining us and uh listen i'm sure you've got more music coming in the future so we will definitely have you back and uh would love to have you back on uh whenever the the next single do you know actually let me just ask you now do you know when the next single is are you are you working on the next one yet um.

1:36:39 Speaker 47: We were talking about it last night oh you know but we'll see what happens you know probably in the next uh We're kind of, Bill and I are a little slow. We take our time, you know.

1:36:49 Speaker 34: Yeah.

1:36:49 Speaker 47: He kind of likes to ponder over things, which is cool, you know.

1:36:52 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:36:53 Speaker 47: He likes to come up with his parts and do, you know, it's all, he does a lot of things MIDI, which is great, you know, because he's just a master of that, which is awesome.

1:37:01 Speaker 4: Yeah.

1:37:03 Speaker 47: But, yeah, you know, we're always working on something, cooking something up, so.

1:37:07 Speaker 30: Outstanding.

1:37:08 Speaker 47: Hopefully we'll have something soon.

1:37:10 Speaker 4: All right.

1:37:10 Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait to hear that. So, all right. Sam Lapidus, thank you so much. And we'll talk to you again soon, I'm sure. Take care.

1:37:17 Speaker 47: Thank you, Matt. It really has been a pleasure.

1:37:19 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.

1:37:19 Speaker 33: All right.

1:37:20 Speaker 21: Bye-bye.

1:37:20 Speaker 24: Take care.

1:37:21 Speaker 31: All right.

1:37:22 Speaker 2: That is the great Sam Lapidus. And let's give this a listen. This is another great song. This is called Kisses in My Pocket.

1:37:45 Speaker 48: I dreamed last night about a perfect.

1:37:48 Speaker 49: Place Love was lost and hearts delayed She caught my eye but I was afraid I.

1:38:07 Speaker 48: Turned my head and walked away.

1:38:14 Speaker 16: Well, I got kisses.

1:38:17 Speaker 48: In my pocket.

1:38:20 Speaker 49: And I got so much more to give.

1:38:29 Speaker 16: Two hearts broken in.

1:38:32 Speaker 48: The same places Won't you please just let me in She was.

1:38:44 Speaker 49: Always on my mind The days and years they flew by.

1:38:59 Speaker 16: Always thought I lived a.

1:39:01 Speaker 49: Lie When she came back I knew I was right I got kisses in my.

1:39:14 Speaker 4: Pocket I got.

1:39:15 Speaker 49: Kisses in my pocket And I got so much more to give. The two hearts broken in the same places. Won't you please just let me in?

1:39:42 Speaker 9: Guitar solo I got kisses.

1:39:56 Speaker 4: In my pocket.

1:40:20 Speaker 49: I got so much more to give. Two hearts broken in the same places.

1:40:35 Speaker 4: Won't you please just let me in?

1:40:39 Speaker 9: I got kisses in my.

1:40:42 Speaker 4: Pocket.

1:40:43 Speaker 49: I got kisses in my pocket. And I got so much more to give Two hearts broken in the.

1:41:00 Speaker 4: Same places Won't you please just let me in.

1:41:12 Speaker 49: Two hearts broken in the same old.

1:41:16 Speaker 2: Places That is a great Sam Lapidus, Kisses in My Pocket, and another great song from him. And thank you again to Sam Lapidus for joining us on the show today. I really enjoyed speaking with him. And this is Matt Connerton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of WMNH.com. 95.3 FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to mattconnerton.com slash live or the newer site, mattconnertonunleashed.com. And, uh, you can enjoy the show live. You can communicate with us right through the websites, uh, send us messages, uh, enter the chat room.

1:42:03 Speaker 2: However, you know, we are also streaming to, of course, social media. We are on YouTube right now and Facebook and everywhere. Of course, the show does go out to all the podcasting networks afterward. And of course, hello to our friends streaming online in Australia. I see Scott Browning, General Scotty, as he is known from Dear Media Group, just accepted my friend request on Facebook. So thank you to everyone down under as well.

1:42:32 Speaker 17: Uh.

1:42:32 Speaker 2: who listens to the show and uh... exciting times a lot of growth a lot of uh... really good stuff happening so very happy about that of course uh... if you are listening live it is saturday september twenty six two thousand twenty six please be safe out there if you are traveling in the northeast we're supposed to have quite a nor'easter so you know we're pretty fortunate here where i am in manchester new hampshire except for a couple of areas of the city we really don't get much flooding here but there you know there there are a couple of neighborhoods that are vulnerable to flash flooding uh...

1:43:01 Speaker 2: but uh... wherever you are just you know something you want to be mindful be careful of uh... will be traveling a little bit later though i'll because tonight at terminus underground in nashua at one thirty four hain street if you've never been there please come check it out and today is the day to do it Tonight, doors open at 7 for the Mental Health Benefit Show to support On the Road to Wellness, a peer-supported arts-based mental health organization right here in Manchester, New Hampshire. And the show tonight is sponsored by Wanderlust Therapeutic Services.

1:43:33 Speaker 2: Terminus Underground Community is coming together for a special night of music connection and support benefiting On the Road to Wellness in Manchester, New Hampshire tonight. Mental health is something that touches every community. Sometimes the most important thing we can do is simply show up for one another, create a safe space to connect and remind people that they don't have to face difficult moments alone. Tonight on the show, let's see, Phantasm, Witchspire, Graboid, Lobotomobile, and I'm going to call them P in public.

1:44:06 Speaker 2: The first word starts with a P, but it's not actually P, but I don't want to get in trouble and say the actual name of the band on the show, but you can figure it out. This isn't just another show. It's an opportunity for our music community to come together for something bigger than ourselves to support an organization doing meaningful work and help keep the conversation around mental health going. Whether you're coming to support a friend, see your favorite band, discover something new, or simply spend an evening surrounded by good people, There's a place for you here.

1:44:33 Speaker 2: Let's take care of each other, support our community, and use the power of music and art to remind someone that they matter. So that is, of course, directly from Terminus Underground, our friends Eleanor and Andre, whom we've known forever, love them. They do great stuff. Not only is it a great cause, but that the show is raising money for, uh, because any organization, any of these organizations that help support mental health are so very important. But, um, Terminus Underground, Eleanor and Andre there, uh, of course, which is run by New Hampshire Underground, uh, they do a lot for the scene too, for the music scene.

1:45:11 Speaker 2: So, um, in fact, it's funny, uh, Malcolm, when he called earlier, Malcolm Wood from Legion of Solace, he mentioned the the Green Jello show that's coming up in Taunton. And Green Jello actually played a couple of years ago at Terminus Underground. That was a show that Jenny set up after Green Jello was here in studio with us after they played in Manchester. Green Jello, probably one of my favorite all-time interviews on the show, although it was also quite stressful because I had to hit the dump button.

1:45:37 Speaker 2: You know, we're on an eight-second delay. I had to hit the dump, I think, five times during that particular segment. But anyway, the point being, they do a lot of great stuff at Terminus Underground. And if you've never been, I tell everyone this, the first time you walk into that room, it's like walking into another world. It's really, really cool. So I hope you'll join us tonight at Terminus Underground, 134 Haines Street in Nashua. Door is at 7 p.m. What I think we're going to do right now, looking at the time, let's see, we do have a world premiere this week.

1:46:12 Speaker 2: We hit it at the top of the show, but we're going to do it again since we are well in hour number two, numero dos. Our friend Lydia Reddy, another great artist from the U.K. who's been with us on the show A couple of times. And she continues to release new music. But the new song is a little bit different, a little bit of a different vibe for her. So you'll hear that in a moment. And then we'll show some love to our amazing sponsors. And then we'll be back with our number three, Numero Tres of Matt Connerton Unleashed.

1:46:42 Speaker 2: And our guest in the third hour also joining us remotely. is Soft Science. So looking forward to speaking with them. By the way, speaking of sponsors, of course, I did announce at the top of the show today, Matt Connerton Hypnosis, now an official sponsor here at WMNH. Very excited about that. Also, we brought on Xtrilly recently. I want to remind you about that as well. A new ride share service that is operating right here in New Hampshire. They are accepting drivers, of course, if you want to drive It's a great way to earn some extra money on your own schedule.

1:47:15 Speaker 2: They're pretty generous with the payouts. If you want to sign up, you can go to Xtrilly.com slash drive 953. And I'll spell that for you. X-T-R-I-L-L-I dot com slash drive 953. And if you want to be a rider, because you need those too, you, the passenger, are a very important part of the business model. You can go to Xtrilly.com slash ride 953. nine five three but uh... really encourage that obviously you know they're here to compete with uber and lyft and i predicted great things i think they're going to do really really well so i extremely dot com again that's xc r i l l i dot com and we welcome them to our roster of amazing sponsors here at w m n h ninety five point three but without further ado let's do it the world radio premiere this has not been played anywhere else prior to now on the radio.

1:48:11 Speaker 2: But here it is, the new single from Lydia Reddy. Check it out.

1:48:18 Speaker 1: You're listening to Matt Connerton Unleashed on WMNH 95.3.

1:48:33 Speaker 2: Right now, exclusively on Matt Connerton Unleashed, the world radio premiere of the new single from Lydia Reddy, This Is How.

1:48:42 Speaker 3: You are listening to WMNH 95.3.

1:48:44 Speaker 16: World premiere.

1:49:05 Speaker 5: Their feet on sand Made their way to the promised land Many a man have been played to look the fool.

1:49:25 Speaker 6: And just like them I followed.

1:49:27 Speaker 7: Down the world pool.

1:49:30 Speaker 52: And I think this is how I die And nobody's questioning why.

1:49:38 Speaker 9: Oh, why is.

1:49:39 Speaker 5: This how I die?

1:49:44 Speaker 10: I want to make.

1:49:48 Speaker 8: Something of my life.

1:49:49 Speaker 6: And I just cry.

1:49:50 Speaker 4: Day through, day fast.

1:50:05 Speaker 11: But I'll eventually be dead.

1:50:12 Speaker 12: Many a man have tried to escape their fate.

1:50:19 Speaker 53: I'd be a billion to one in a rat race. And I think this is how I die.

1:50:30 Speaker 8: And nobody's questioning why.

1:50:36 Speaker 54: This is how I.

1:50:40 Speaker 10: Die I want to make some of my life.

1:50:46 Speaker 5: And not just cry This is how I die Pull.

1:50:54 Speaker 4: The sword out the soul.

1:50:59 Speaker 13: And Touch as you crash.

1:51:02 Speaker 4: And burn Put on my chain.

1:51:08 Speaker 7: May you love her And live you with all of.

1:51:14 Speaker 14: The trauma Come and make me live longer Please make me stop suffocating Tighten my grip on my soul Pronounce my soul, Lord Be all the talk All I want, Lord And I.

1:51:33 Speaker 15: Think This, this how I fight.

1:51:41 Speaker 6: And nobody's questioning why.

1:51:45 Speaker 9: How bad.

1:52:39 Speaker 2: This is Howl by the great Lydia Reddy, and that is the world radio premiere of that song. And one more thing we're going to sneak in before we go to a commercial break, because it's not very long. Graboid is one of the bands that is playing tonight at the show that I was talking about earlier. The Benefit for Mental Health at Terminus Underground in Nashua, New Hampshire. And this is kind of a short song, but I like it a lot. It's called Welcoming America by Graboid. Let's give this a spin. It's short.

1:53:07 Speaker 2: It's a short song, but I really like it. And then we'll take a break and show some love to our amazing sponsors. Plenty more Matt Connerton Unleashed coming up. Don't go anywhere. But here it is, Welcoming America by Graboid.

1:53:24 Speaker 22: Right down the street, the choice I've been set. That's what I'm getting at, yeah.

1:53:37 Speaker 17: Doesn't know what to say. We're with America.

1:54:53 Speaker 28: WMNH.

1:54:54 Speaker 8: Rip the knob off.

1:54:56 Speaker 2: Are you ready to make a change in your life? My name is Matt Connerton and I'm a certified hypnotherapist. Hypnosis can help you change habits, overcome obstacles and reach your goals. Sessions are available online or in person. at Birchwood Salon in Hooksett. And your initial consultation is always free. Visit mattconnerton.com. That's Matt, C-O-N-N-A-R-T-O-N.com to learn more or book your appointment. That's mattconnerton.com.

1:55:30 Speaker 18: Nana's Kitchen and Pizzeria.

1:55:33 Speaker 38: From Nana's hands to your plate, tradition, love, and.

1:55:38 Speaker 4: Taste that's great.

1:55:40 Speaker 19: Slow fermented dough, flavors so true.

1:55:46 Speaker 39: Each bite a story made just for you.

1:55:53 Speaker 28: 603-232-9366.

1:55:54 Speaker 18: Nana's Kitchen and Pizzeria, 15 Dartmouth Drive, Auburn, New Hampshire.

1:56:05 Speaker 20: Amen.

1:56:09 Speaker 2: Looking for a flexible way to earn extra income? Xtrilly is now recruiting drivers in New Hampshire. Drive part-time or work around your own schedule, keep 75% of the gross fare after required fees, and get paid weekly. Ready to get started? Visit xtrilly.com slash drive 953 and sign up to drive. That's X-T-R-I-L-L-I dot com slash drive 953.

1:56:41 Speaker 40: In times of crisis, you need a law firm that stands by your side. With over 40 years of experience, Craig & Gatsoulis is dedicated to fighting for your rights. As former state prosecutors, our attorneys have the knowledge and trial experience to provide an aggressive defense against any charge, from DUIs to homicides. If you've been injured, our compassionate team will assess your case and fight for the compensation you deserve. Serving all of New Hampshire, Craig and Getsoulis is here when you need us most.

1:57:09 Speaker 40: Visit craiggetsoulis.com for a free consultation. Craig and Getsoulis, your advocates, your allies.

1:57:16 Speaker 41: Bring your kitchen to life with Queen City Cabinet Treat. Located at 87 Elm Street in the historic Sunbeam Mall in Manchester. Open Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 5.30 p.m. and Saturdays, 10 a.m.

1:57:30 Speaker 33: To 2 p.m. They can be reached at 603-222-2007 or on the web at queencitycabinetrynh.com.

1:57:42 Speaker 42: Hey everyone, this is Rob Azevedo, host of Granite State of Mind, and I want to tell you about Pembroke City Limits and the historic Suncook Village. PCL is an award-winning bar, restaurant, and music venue where there's live music five days a week and twice on Saturdays. Everything from blues, country, folk, funk, and a whole lot of jazz. We have 12 craft beers on tap dedicated to local brewers in the area and some of the friendliest bar around. Please come visit Pembroke City Limits at 134 Main Street, the historic Sunkook Village, only six miles outside of Manchester.

1:58:18 Speaker 43: Open Tuesdays to Wednesdays, 4 to 10.

1:58:20 Speaker 42: Thursdays to Sunday, 11 to 10.

1:58:23 Speaker 43: Pembroke City Limits, where it's all about the music.

1:58:25 Speaker 44: Diz's Cafe is the place to put a smile on your face.

1:58:29 Speaker 45: Judy and the crew will take care of you, bring your appetite, and treat your taste buds right. Diz's Cafe is always a winning choice. Breakfast, lunch, or supper.

1:58:39 Speaker 44: Diz's Cafe at 860 Elm Street in downtown Manchester. Dine in, take out, or make a reservation.

1:58:46 Speaker 33: Call 603-606-2532.

1:58:47 Speaker 23: Eat, drink, and be happy.

1:58:48 Speaker 33: Diz's Cafe. When it.

1:58:57 Speaker 27: And your own personal or business computer needs? Trust Groland Computers. Located on Elm Street in Manchester, Groland handles computer repair, virus removal, and custom-built systems. Are you looking for budget-friendly options? Check out our selection of fully inspected used computers. We offer tailored, on-site solutions. No unnecessary expenses here. Visit Groland.com or call Groland Computers at 603-645-0101.

1:59:20 Speaker 2: Your tech, your way.

1:59:20 Speaker 27: Trust Groland Computers. 7 times out.

1:59:35 Speaker 21: Of 10, we listened to our music at night.

1:59:41 Speaker 36: Thus spawned the title of this program.

1:59:44 Speaker 34: Late Night Delight with DJ Midas, right here on WMNH Manchester.

1:59:48 Speaker 16: You wanna know why? Because I'm on the radio.

1:59:51 Speaker 28: Saturdays and Sunday nights, midnight to 4 a.m.

1:59:55 Speaker 18: This hour on WMNH is sponsored by CGI Business Solutions, located at 5 Dartmouth Drive in Auburn. They serve all your business needs, including employee benefits planning, corporate design and business administration, investments and wealth management, and customized business insurance solutions. Their phone number is 866-841-4600 or on the web at cgibusinesssolutions.com.

2:00:27 Speaker 46: Behold the harmony of airwaves as you immerse yourself in the captivating frequencies of WMNHLP.

2:00:34 Speaker 23: The sonic heartbeat of Manchester.

2:00:37 Speaker 46: Transcending through the ether at 95.3 megahertz frequency modulation. Our transmissions emanate from the zenith of 1000 Elm Street. Venture into the heart of our creative realm at 119 Canal Street. Where innovation and sound collide. We bear the imprimatur of Manchester Public Television Service in the venerable city of Manchester, New Hampshire, USA. Enrich your auditory journey with the depth of our licensed residents. Dispatch your missives to WMNH953 at gmail.com or traverse the virtual corridors of WMNHradio.org.

2:01:10 Speaker 46: Engage with our sonic vibrations by communing with us through the digital channels.

2:01:14 Speaker 23: Your radio beckons.

2:01:16 Speaker 46: Eager to enthrall you with its mesmerizing cadence and envelop you in a symphony of foundless auditory wonder.

2:01:26 Speaker 28: WMNH, rip the knob off.

2:01:30 Speaker 23: We're back from the break.

2:01:33 Speaker 9: Macca! In the land Won't you take my.

2:02:09 Speaker 17: Hand As we go out.

2:02:11 Speaker 9: To the sea into a dream, into a dream.

2:03:13 Speaker 17: We need them to love, wait for what I cannot see. Stay right here, living all seems clear.

2:03:18 Speaker 9: The world is only you and me, fit.

2:03:20 Speaker 17: Into a dream.

2:04:08 Speaker 9: So so.

2:04:53 Speaker 17: Thank you.

2:05:22 Speaker 2: Oh, what a great sound. I love that song. That is called Fade. The band is Soft Science. And let's see, we should have, joining us remotely via restream, Katie Haley and Ross Levine on the line with us. Hello, are you there?

2:05:42 Speaker 28: Hello, can you hear me?

2:05:43 Speaker 2: Hey, yes, I can hear you both. Is it just the two of you, Katie and Ross?

2:05:48 Speaker 27: Yeah.

2:05:49 Speaker 2: Okay. Welcome to the show. I love that song. Um, that is so good. I listened, I listened to the whole album sand, but I, I especially love that. Uh, it's got such a cool sound to it and you know, it's, um, Tell me what that song is about, because my interpretation is that it has to do with memories, which I'm interested in because I'm a hypnotherapist, and sometimes I help people to recover lost memories. But that's kind of what the song means to me. But can you tell me what that's about? And then I want to have a broader conversation about the album.

2:06:25 Speaker 2: But tell me about Fade.

2:06:27 Speaker 36: Basically, the idea of Fade is about memories and change and katie and i we we both have teenagers kids and uh when you have a kid you can really.

2:06:41 Speaker 28: See the change is constant right yeah.

2:06:45 Speaker 36: So you kind of really feel time and uh you know and and it's how things change subtle suddenly uh are slowly that all of a sudden seems suddenly where it's like little bits here a little bit there a little bit there and then you realize that it's the accumulation of little things has reached a point where, you know, your whole life is different and it's kind of snuck up on you.

2:07:08 Speaker 31: Yeah.

2:07:09 Speaker 2: I've, I've observed that in other people. I don't have any children of my own, but, but I've, but I've noticed, um, you know, I've, I've heard people talk about that, about that's kind of what having kids is like and how it does, how it does kind of affect time and your sense of time. And, and, um, you know, the, the part you said about, you know, things kind of sneaking up on you. That is something that I've heard a lot, so that makes sense. We should mention, too, of course, Ross, you're the guitarist and backing vocalist and keyboardist, and Katie, you sing and do percussion as well.

2:07:41 Speaker 2: And I love your voice, Katie, and I think on a song like that, too, it's just really, really cool. I like the... And there's kind of a dreamy sort of... I mean, part of it's the song and the production, of course, but the, you know, this, the kind of a dreamy, um, element to it. And is that something Katie that you sort of strive for in terms of how you sing? Have you always kind of sung that way?

2:08:03 Speaker 35: Um, well, thank you for the compliment. I appreciate it.

2:08:08 Speaker 30: I'm really glad that, um, that you, that you like how my voice sounds.

2:08:11 Speaker 51: Um, uh, yeah, I mean, we, I mean, I feel, I sing how I sing, but, but I.

2:08:21 Speaker 35: Mean, we do do some, there's, there's, there's some purpose.

2:08:27 Speaker 28: Right.

2:08:28 Speaker 51: And I do like kind of sing a little bit, maybe like lighter on some things to have it be.

2:08:33 Speaker 30: More airy and, and dreamy.

2:08:37 Speaker 51: And, you know, have, have that sound where we use, that's the kind of, sound and texture that we... Well, yeah, reverb. There's a little magic. Not magic, but a reverb.

2:08:52 Speaker 4: Production.

2:08:53 Speaker 35: There's a lot of layers of vocals.

2:08:56 Speaker 31: Yeah.

2:08:58 Speaker 2: Well, that's why I was wondering, because not everyone can pull that off. You know, I've heard I've heard some singers try to pull that off, but you really nail it. And, you know, and it just works so well on a on a song like that. Can you tell me a little bit about the theme of the album? Because I feel like the album also, Sand. I feel like it also has kind of a theme to it. You know, it seems like it's about maybe some of the same themes as Fade specifically about memories and cycles and changes and relationships and all that stuff.

2:09:32 Speaker 2: But can you tell me about Sand and kind of the themes of it?

2:09:37 Speaker 47: Well, sorry.

2:09:39 Speaker 28: No, it's okay.

2:09:42 Speaker 36: The title track Sand is a song we actually had left over. from the batch of songs that we had for lines. So that is the oldest song on the record. And when we started Soft Science years ago, we kind of had the attitude that if we have an opportunity to do something, we should do it. We should take it up. Because every time we have an opportunity, it could be the last time we ever have that opportunity. So we need to take advantage of things and do it.

2:10:14 Speaker 36: not take things for granted and think that, you know, we'll, we'll get a chance for that next time. We'll get them next time. So we put a lot of effort into the records because we don't want to, we want to make sure they're as good as possible and we don't look back and wish we did something different.

2:10:27 Speaker 31: Right.

2:10:28 Speaker 36: And then, you know, if we get opportunity to play somewhere, we try our best to do it. We have a lot of limitations because the fact that, you know, we have busy lives and kids and stuff and, and we all don't live in the same town anymore. So it's a little bit more difficult to get together, but we still make it work. And so, so San was, you know, basically do it while we can, uh, just seize the moment. And, and, uh, because you don't know if you're ever have that chance again. And that is kind of the theme of the record, the, uh, permeates through a few of the songs.

2:11:02 Speaker 2: It does.

2:11:02 Speaker 35: I think it's also, I always think, Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Matt.

2:11:06 Speaker 4: Oh no.

2:11:07 Speaker 2: I was just going to say, uh, referring to what Ross was saying. It does, it does feel like there's a certain urgency to the album. Um, but, but yeah, go, go ahead, Katie.

2:11:17 Speaker 37: Oh no, I was just, it's, it's always interesting to me because I think that we, I don't think that we ever really go out. Um, when we're making an album intentionally with like a theme.

2:11:28 Speaker 46: Yeah.

2:11:29 Speaker 30: But it's interesting how this collection of songs kind of does have a lot of lyrically. I think it's like just processing this time in our lives. Ross and I collaborate on the lyrics.

2:11:45 Speaker 35: We have for years.

2:11:47 Speaker 51: And I just think that it, it's kind of interesting when I, when I step back and it does have this, you know, it's like processing relationships and, and memory and thinking about how, you know, and.

2:12:03 Speaker 30: Treasuring things, treasuring moments that have in your life, like fade.

2:12:08 Speaker 35: Into a dream.

2:12:08 Speaker 51: You know, one day, you know, I know you'll understand, you know, like Ross said about, you know, Sam, let's do it while we can. And it's really, I don't know. This album does feel a little bit different in that way, that when we step back and look at the songs and look at them, that it's like this moment in time and about treasuring moments and memories and processing things.

2:12:40 Speaker 30: Processing relationships.

2:12:42 Speaker 51: And I love that kind of magically or during that course of time in making it came together like that.

2:12:51 Speaker 18: Yeah.

2:12:54 Speaker 2: Has the process changed because this is your, is this your fifth album? Is that correct?

2:13:02 Speaker 24: Yeah.

2:13:03 Speaker 51: Yeah.

2:13:04 Speaker 2: I would imagine, I would imagine the process has changed over the course of those.

2:13:07 Speaker 23: Oh, go.

2:13:09 Speaker 2: Ahead, Russ.

2:13:11 Speaker 36: Uh, yeah, we used to be able, we used to be able to, uh, when we all live in the same town, uh, we had a, well, I think it was Wednesday night practice and every Wednesday night we get together and work on songs.

2:13:21 Speaker 28: So we would have a lot of time to work on songs together in the same room.

2:13:25 Speaker 36: And then things got complicated. People moved and got busy. And then we lost the space. And so now it's much harder for us to get together. So our previous record lines, we you know, it was very compartmentalized ever. We were very, because of the pandemic, they started working on me a little bit before the pandemic. So we got a little bit together, but then it was really compartmentalized with just like people sending recordings, their takes in.

2:13:53 Speaker 28: And we really didn't get to work on things together.

2:13:57 Speaker 36: And I think the record, I liked the lines a lot, but one of the cool things about Sand is we got, we made it, we found the time and we actually got, spent some weekends you know to really hammer stuff out as a band you know we obviously you know we wish we you know more would be better but we got we did make it happen and we do a lot of you know scheduling can be rough but we find weekends and we get together we work on things and because Matt Katie and I on Wednesday nights and figured out parts and bounced ideas off each other and and threw stuff out, brought stuff in, tried out a ton of different harmonies.

2:14:43 Speaker 36: Katie came up with a lot more vocal ideas just because we had the time to work on stuff. My brother got to work on a lot more interesting guitar work just because, again, we had more time to bounce ideas off each other.

2:14:58 Speaker 28: It's a little harder than it used to be. But the fact that we exist is a victory.

2:15:04 Speaker 23: Yeah.

2:15:04 Speaker 28: And that ties into the theme of the record.

2:15:07 Speaker 36: Just appreciate that we still get to do this in some level and still get opportunities to talk to people like you. And we're hoping this next year we're going to actually get out and play some shows. We're hoping to be able to announce some stuff pretty soon.

2:15:20 Speaker 18: Okay.

2:15:20 Speaker 2: Okay.

2:15:21 Speaker 31: Excellent.

2:15:21 Speaker 2: Speaking of playing shows, I'm curious, when you do play live as a band, do the songs change at all? Does the sound, the vibe change at all? Because it seems like... it seems like some of this might be a little challenging to replicate live or maybe not. Maybe, maybe, maybe it's easy for the, the unit that you have. Maybe, you know, obviously you've been around a while, you've been together a while as a band. So maybe there's, maybe it's easy. I don't know. But what is it like trying to play these live and do the songs change at all?

2:15:57 Speaker 35: I would say the songs do not change.

2:16:00 Speaker 30: We try really hard to kind of sound like the record when we play live.

2:16:07 Speaker 35: So we try to replicate as closely as possible.

2:16:14 Speaker 30: I mean, it will sound a little different because it is live, but all the parts are there.

2:16:21 Speaker 4: Excellent.

2:16:21 Speaker 2: Excellent. And on this album, too, did you kind of turn up the guitars? a little bit, um, in contrast with some of your earlier work. I mean, it seems like the guitars are, you know, the guitars are very present and so not, you know, not super heavy, obviously, but, um, and yet, I mean, it's a neat trick, right? Cause you've got the guitars there. You can, you can hear them. They're, they're driving the songs, but they're not, um, but they don't overshadow that sort of dream pop vibe that you've got going, uh, overall.

2:16:50 Speaker 2: I mean, did, did you intentionally turn up the guitars on that record? Am I just, am I imagining that? Am I, is what I'm hearing really there? It seems like the guitars are louder on sand.

2:17:04 Speaker 36: Uh, I, um, Kevin, um, uh, Kev Bolas mixed the record and he did a really good job and, and, and, my brother did give feedback.

2:17:17 Speaker 28: To maybe turn the guitars up a little bit.

2:17:19 Speaker 27: Really?

2:17:19 Speaker 36: I didn't really realize, think of them as being louder than the previous records myself. But, you know, it's, yeah, I have to think about that. So I know, because the initial mixes, they were a little bit lower, but they turned them up a bit.

2:17:34 Speaker 2: Okay.

2:17:34 Speaker 28: But I don't think of them as loud. But we think of ourselves as a guitar-based band.

2:17:38 Speaker 23: Yeah.

2:17:39 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:17:39 Speaker 35: For sure.

2:17:40 Speaker 31: Yeah. Yeah.

2:17:41 Speaker 35: They're just very present. They're very present.

2:17:46 Speaker 51: I think that this album has some of Matt and Ross's best guitar work to date.

2:17:52 Speaker 24: Really?

2:17:52 Speaker 23: Okay.

2:17:53 Speaker 51: In my opinion.

2:17:54 Speaker 28: Mainly that.

2:17:58 Speaker 30: Mainly, yeah.

2:17:59 Speaker 35: Well, I'm giving you some credit too there, Rod.

2:18:03 Speaker 51: Ross can basically play every instrument in the band.

2:18:06 Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

2:18:07 Speaker 28: But not every instrument.

2:18:10 Speaker 51: Jack of all trades. But Matt is especially a really great guitarist.

2:18:16 Speaker 2: Okay, okay. And by the way, are you guys playing 12 strings? Did I read that correctly?

2:18:23 Speaker 23: Yeah.

2:18:24 Speaker 28: We both have Rickenbacker 12 strings.

2:18:27 Speaker 36: They were our pandemic splurges for recording lines.

2:18:32 Speaker 28: And then I got jealous cause he got one. So I bought one too.

2:18:34 Speaker 2: Oh, no kidding.

2:18:35 Speaker 28: And once you get used to it, it's not so bad. No, the strings is a nightmare. Oh, I bet.

2:18:41 Speaker 31: Yeah. Yeah.

2:18:42 Speaker 2: I've heard though, once you get used to playing it, it's not bad, but, but so I'm curious though, what that contribute, like, does that, is that part of what supplies the texture, you know, that I hear in these songs and are you playing 12 strings throughout the album on every track?

2:18:59 Speaker 36: Not every, um, some, there are some, uh, six string parts and specials in the leads, but all the rhythms are 12 strings. And, uh, and we basically know wearing our sleeves are, are big influences like lush and ride have a ton of 12 strings. So like, you know, uh, nowhere and, and smile and gala they have. So we're, you know, we're not original on this, but we're, we've loved that lush sound. So we were just kind of, went head, head first into it and just, you know, lines was completely all 12 strings.

2:19:35 Speaker 36: And we almost had this thing, like, we don't want to use a six string because then we can't say it's all 12 strings.

2:19:39 Speaker 28: This one, we weren't so melted on it.

2:19:41 Speaker 12: Okay.

2:19:42 Speaker 28: And, uh, you know, the next record, who knows?

2:19:44 Speaker 36: It's just, it was just kind of a, uh, kind of a, uh, whatever, you know, idea that we just kind of got obsessed with.

2:19:53 Speaker 2: Right.

2:19:54 Speaker 18: Right.

2:19:54 Speaker 2: No, No, it's cool. Like I said, I mean, it sounds great. Do you feel that geography plays a role in your sound? Obviously, you know, Northern California, that whole sort of dream pop shoegaze. I don't even know how you feel about those terms, but I feel like if I didn't know where you were from and I just heard... your music without knowing and someone said, guess, guess where in the, you know, they're an American band, guess where in the United States they're from. I would probably say either California or I would say the West coast more broadly.

2:20:26 Speaker 2: But I mean, do you feel that soft science is kind of a, are you a product of your environment in a certain sense?

2:20:34 Speaker 51: Oh, I don't, I don't, I mean, I'll, I'll be interested. I don't think you've ever been asked this question. Um, I don't know. I think we're very influenced actually by, you know, bands from the UK.

2:20:46 Speaker 2: Really?

2:20:48 Speaker 51: And not that we're not influenced by bands from America too, but, oh yeah, like, you know, like Mighty Lemon Drops and Lush and Ride and, but, you know, also like Love Not a Surf and.

2:21:04 Speaker 30: Things like that.

2:21:04 Speaker 35: But I don't know.

2:21:06 Speaker 51: I don't know if the, Ross, what do you think?

2:21:12 Speaker 28: Yeah, that's a tough one.

2:21:13 Speaker 18: I stumped you.

2:21:16 Speaker 33: I know.

2:21:18 Speaker 36: The titles, you know, we talk about being called shoegaze or dream pop and dream gaze and all that stuff. It's really abstract. It's such a broad thing. We get called shoegaze sometimes, but we don't sound like a lot of the new shoegaze nowadays. We sound more like the old shoegaze, but then like that's why we kind of and we're way more song oriented so we lean into pop we're basically pop songs with you know we try to add some mood and reverb.

2:21:52 Speaker 23: To uh.

2:21:54 Speaker 36: Dreamy textures dreamy textures but it's really abstract you know sometimes we i i was thinking like we call ourselves shoegaze and dream pop because other people have.

2:22:02 Speaker 28: Called the shoegaze and dream cop yeah yeah not necessarily because like we think of ourselves that way.

2:22:08 Speaker 35: I definitely think we're dream pop.

2:22:10 Speaker 30: I think sometimes we have more shoe, more shoe gaze-y songs.

2:22:15 Speaker 51: But if you, if you like listen to, for example, like rides going, going blank again, you know, you think about twisterella, like that is like a pop song, you know? And I think.

2:22:30 Speaker 35: That we are that. So when Ross says we're more.

2:22:33 Speaker 55: Like an old, you know, like an old school, I think we, I think if they were to pick like a shoegaze band, I think we are more in the ride camp regarding like our songs and like, aren't we, you can have, we have albums that have more, you know, kind of like a dark wave element or like more shoegaze element that are something more like a sway on our album or, or threads.

2:23:01 Speaker 51: Got different, but that are like, if I has a darker, like, like slower elements. Then we have like, you know, pop songs like hope. I mean, hope is just a pop song. Fade to me is a pop song that is just, you know, has, has dreamy textures and like long drawn out, you know, notes and things that, that make it feel for lack of dreamy.

2:23:26 Speaker 2: So, yeah.

2:23:29 Speaker 30: But I like the range in an album. It's not, we, we, we do try hard to curate, you know, when we were coming up, we're like, okay, well we need another pop song.

2:23:39 Speaker 35: We need another song. It's like a journey.

2:23:41 Speaker 51: You know, I like albums that have variations, um, in, in song styles. So it's, it's almost like a, I was, I like to think of albums too, of like, they're almost like little books in a way. Yeah. Um, you know, it's, if you sit and listen to it, there, there is like a, a story. There is a feeling it's a, it's a mood. Um, And those are albums that I like to listen to. So that's really, I think Ross is probably on the same page with me on that. And that's, that's what we try to do too.

2:24:18 Speaker 2: No, that makes sense. So let me, yeah, go ahead, Ross.

2:24:26 Speaker 28: Oh, I just was going to agree with Katie.

2:24:28 Speaker 36: And like when we make a record record, sometimes we go into it and we want to make a record that sounds like this, you know, kind of definitely, kind of set its goal but then it's a large degree just ends up being you know what you come up with and it drifts into other things and areas and then when you have almost have a record the batch of songs done you're like what really what do we really need to complement this to kind of round it out so that maybe at the end you kind of have a little more intention to come up with a more poppy song or a more dreamy song or something to kind of, uh, scratch that itch to kind of complete the, the journey of the record to make it seem like a good, uh, uh, you know, kind of round out the experience and have different aspects there.

2:25:12 Speaker 33: Right.

2:25:12 Speaker 4: Right.

2:25:13 Speaker 2: I like that. Um, well, let me ask the, uh, the obvious question. Uh, where does the name come from? Soft science. What is it? Uh, what's behind the name?

2:25:24 Speaker 35: I'm going to let Ross go with that one. He, he's the one that finally came up with that. We struggled.

2:25:30 Speaker 51: We were, we were together for a long time and not for a long time, but for, for, for many months, um, uh, we, we were in a, and we were in a band before we started soft science called California oranges.

2:25:42 Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

2:25:43 Speaker 51: And, um, then we, when they broke up, we got together and, um, we didn't have a name for while we were writing like our first album. And then we were like, okay, we need to come up with a name. And then Ross, how do you take it from there?

2:25:58 Speaker 36: Well, thinking of a name for a band is really hard because every name for a band has been taken. If you think of anything and you go to Spotify and put it in there, you'll find, you.

2:26:06 Speaker 28: Know, three of them.

2:26:08 Speaker 16: Right.

2:26:08 Speaker 32: Right.

2:26:09 Speaker 36: Uh, it was going through like, like, like Wikipedia, just like looking anything for just anything that sounds interesting. And, um, in the, I just, you know, found soft science and it wasn't taken. So I'm like, well, maybe soft science. And it kind of had the idea of soft science being, you know, you know, things that are more, uh, less set in stone or.

2:26:33 Speaker 51: Well, it's more of a, it's not a hard science.

2:26:35 Speaker 35: It's not like, you know, there's no, there's no, there's no math involved.

2:26:40 Speaker 30: Like a humanity, like anthropology, um, you know, those things.

2:26:46 Speaker 23: And, um, No math involved.

2:26:49 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:26:52 Speaker 30: I was like that just when Ross said it, I remember him saying it and he's not practicing. I think I came up with the band name and I was like, oh my gosh, I love it.

2:27:01 Speaker 35: I love it so much. That's it.

2:27:04 Speaker 28: Yeah.

2:27:06 Speaker 36: Well, between our first and second record, Because we go in hibernation, it takes us a while, it can be four years between records. But another band actually ahead of Utah put out an EP under the name Soft Science.

2:27:19 Speaker 3: Oh, no.

2:27:21 Speaker 28: Right before our second record came out. I was like, what the?

2:27:26 Speaker 36: It's so much effort trying to think of a name that no one else had. This other band just comes and takes our name before our second record is coming out.

2:27:32 Speaker 25: Right.

2:27:33 Speaker 28: So I emailed them. I didn't get a response for a super long time.

2:27:38 Speaker 36: And then all of a sudden I got, they got back to me and they're like okay sorry for the delay we've been thinking all right we'll change our name we thought you guys had broken up because you haven't done anything in a while like we have a new record coming out like you know a few months right and uh they said on one condition will you will you buy our t-shirts we just made a batch of t-shirts so oh my god so i'm okay we we bought a they were really good shirts oh really cool design oh that's so we just we bought their uh we bought their shirts and started selling through our band camp and it shows and oh wow it worked out oh that's funny they changed their name and that was it oh that's great that's great.

2:28:15 Speaker 30: We have one of our first t-shirts that's how that came about.

2:28:17 Speaker 2: No kidding oh that's cool that was our first t-shirt yeah oh that's That's funny. I've, I've, I've heard a lot of, um, interesting stories when it comes to merch, but not nothing quite like that. That's amazing. How many, how many shirts was it? Like how many did you have to buy? I, it's, it wasn't a huge amount.

2:28:38 Speaker 16: Yeah.

2:28:38 Speaker 28: It was a few dozen.

2:28:40 Speaker 30: Oh, okay.

2:28:41 Speaker 28: Maybe like a hundred shirts.

2:28:43 Speaker 2: Oh, that's quite a few. That's great. I love that. I love that. Um, Well, so I'm going to let you both go in a couple of minutes, but I'm going to close our conversation with another great track from the album, Spinning. What can you tell me about this song? It's interesting to me lyrically, but what should we know about the song Spinning?

2:29:13 Speaker 35: Well, I know what it's about.

2:29:15 Speaker 30: It's really just about being caught in a loop conversation.

2:29:20 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:29:21 Speaker 35: Uh, with someone, you.

2:29:22 Speaker 30: Know, and we've all had those moments, um, you know, where you're just like, um, you know, you just, the communication is just being blocked or no one's listening or, um, you know, you don't feel like you're getting through, um, and that frustration there. Um, so that's what, that's what spinning's about.

2:29:46 Speaker 35: Very literal, I guess.

2:29:49 Speaker 2: But also relatable. Everyone's experienced that, certainly.

2:29:53 Speaker 35: Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's so frustrating.

2:29:56 Speaker 24: Absolutely.

2:29:57 Speaker 2: 100%. Very good. So we'll hit that track in a moment, but also I want to ask you, where is the best place to go online for our listeners to keep up with everything that SoftScience is doing?

2:30:10 Speaker 28: We have a.

2:30:12 Speaker 36: I should have this memorized, but I'm going to.

2:30:14 Speaker 28: That's okay.

2:30:15 Speaker 18: Pull it up.

2:30:15 Speaker 28: You can go to us.

2:30:16 Speaker 36: We're on Instagram and Facebook and we can buy most of our stuff through band camp at, uh, what in our band camp address is soft science band dot band cap.com. Soft science band dot band camp.com. And you can buy all, uh, or records and t-shirts there. Um, and, uh, at Instagram, we are at, uh, it's just Instagram.com slash soft science band.

2:30:49 Speaker 28: So if you put soft science at soft science band, you'll find us.

2:30:52 Speaker 2: Okay. Wonderful.

2:30:53 Speaker 33: And, uh, go ahead.

2:30:57 Speaker 20: Oh, sorry.

2:30:57 Speaker 36: Uh, and, uh, you know, we'll keep things up to date. We have some shows, uh, that we're looking to announce soon. Uh, they're getting finalized. Uh, and that's where you can find out.

2:31:07 Speaker 2: Oh, very good. Very good. I'm glad you're on band camp too. Band camp is wonderful. Very artist friendly. And you get, you know, if you get music from band camp, you get a high quality file, uh, which is something a lot of people don't realize. But Katie and Ross, I do want to thank you both for joining us today. We're going to close out with the song Spinning, another one of my favorites from the album. The album is called Sand. Everyone should check it out. But we'll definitely do this in the future as you're releasing new music or maybe if you put out another single.

2:31:35 Speaker 2: But again, Katie and Ross, thank you both so much for joining us today.

2:31:38 Speaker 28: Thank you so much for having us.

2:31:42 Speaker 2: Absolutely. We'll do it again in the future.

2:31:43 Speaker 18: All right.

2:31:44 Speaker 2: We'll let you go. Take care.

2:31:45 Speaker 24: Bye-bye.

2:31:46 Speaker 34: All right.

2:31:48 Speaker 2: That is Katie and Ross from the band Soft Science. And again, I love the album, Sand, and I love their sound. This is so good. But let's give this another, well, another spin. The track is called Spinning. And again, the band is Soft Science.

2:32:33 Speaker 9: And you've got me spinning wrong Am I getting through now?

2:33:07 Speaker 9: Here we go, round again All the same, now I stand And you've got me spinning round Am I getting from now on? And you've got me spinning around Am I coming around now? And you've got me spinning around.

2:34:54 Speaker 2: I love their sound. My God, that is so good. That is called spinning. The band is a soft science. They are from Northern California. And thank you again to Ross and Haley for joining us on the show. Unfortunately, there was, if you were listening live, there was a little bit of a weird delay. I think it was on Ross's end, but I'll kind of clean that up in the podcast a little bit. But I did really enjoy speaking with them a lot, and I do love this band. Again, Soft Science is the band, and the album is called Sand.

2:35:22 Speaker 2: But you can find all their albums online. Really, really good. We're actually going to play one more, in fact, because we have time. I'm going to play one more from the album. If you are just joining us, this is Matt Connerton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of WMNH, 95.3 FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And here's one more from Soft Science. This is called Understand.

2:36:17 Speaker 9: Year after year, time.

2:36:18 Speaker 51: Slips so easily.

2:36:19 Speaker 9: Words that you say ring in my ear and keep you near to me.

2:36:22 Speaker 17: And I don't understand.

2:36:45 Speaker 9: When things get hard, go back to the start You'll.

2:36:46 Speaker 4: Find a place to be.

2:38:51 Speaker 9: Under a star Under a star Under a star.

2:39:28 Speaker 2: A question for my listeners. What would you change about your life if you knew that you could? Maybe you want to feel more confident, reduce stress, overcome a fear or a phobia, change an unwanted habit, or finally get past something that's been holding you back. I'm Matt Connerton, radio host and certified hypnotherapist, and I help people use the power of hypnosis to create meaningful, positive change. I offer private sessions online and in person, and your initial consultation is completely free.

2:40:03 Speaker 2: Find out if hypnosis is right for you. Visit my website today, mattconnerton.com. That's mattconnerton.com.

2:40:11 Speaker 42: When Matzo wakes up in the morning, he gets into the shower, and to the top of his lungs, he sings.

2:40:18 Speaker 9: I'm the man.

2:40:22 Speaker 16: I do what I want because I can.

2:40:28 Speaker 3: All right, back to the radio show now.

2:40:30 Speaker 4: All the best.

2:40:33 Speaker 2: And this is Matt Connerton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of WMNH 95.3 FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to my website, mattconnertonunleashed.com. Click listen live. You can, of course, get access to the audio stream. You can get the YouTube feed. And, of course, you can get all your various options for how you can listen to the show online. And if you missed the live show, of course, the show goes up on the WMNH website, goes up on my website, and it goes out to all the podcasting platforms.

2:41:04 Speaker 2: So you can listen to it on the platform of your choice. So thank you all for joining us today on the show. It's been a great show. We've had some great guests. Really enjoyed talking to Sam Lapidus. Of course, we just talked... Just talked with Soft Science. And who did we have in the first hour? I'll tell you what, it all becomes a bit of a blur sometimes, my friends. It really does. Let's see. Oh, yeah, we had the magnetic pets, tiny magnetic pets, I'm sorry, in the first hour. And we had a surprise call today from Malcolm Wood of Legion of Solace.

2:41:40 Speaker 2: It's been a very busy show, but it's going to be a very busy show. day because later on today, doors open at 7 p.m. tonight at Terminus Underground in Nashua, New Hampshire at 134 Haynes Street in Nashua. Mental health benefits show to support On the Road to Wellness, a peer-supported arts-based mental health organization right here in Manchester, sponsored by Wanderlust Therapeutic Services. The Terminus Underground community is coming together for a special night of music, connection, and support benefiting On the Road to Wellness in Manchester.

2:42:14 Speaker 2: Mental health is something that touches every community. Sometimes the most important thing we can do is simply show up for one another, create a safe space to connect, and remind people that they don't have to face difficult moments alone. Join us for an all-ages show tonight. And that's important, too, that it is all ages. There's not enough all-ages shows around. But the lineup tonight includes Phantasm, Witchspire, Graboid, Lobotomobile, my favorite band name ever to say, and P in Public. It's actually not P in Public.

2:42:44 Speaker 2: It's something slightly different, but I can't say it on the show. Certainly not on a Saturday morning. But this isn't just another show. It's an opportunity for our music community to come together for something bigger than ourselves to support an organization doing meaningful work and help keep the conversation around mental health going. Whether you're coming to support a friend, to see your favorite band, discover something new, or simply spend an evening surrounded by good people, there's a place for you here.

2:43:10 Speaker 2: Let's take care of each other, support our community, and use the power of music and art to remind someone that they matter. So that is tonight at Terminus Underground, Doors at 7. Jenny and I will be there. Please come say hello. And it's going to be a great night. I think what we're going to do right now, we're going to play earlier. We played a song from Graboid, one of the bands playing tonight at the event at Terminus Underground. I think we should play.

2:43:36 Speaker 16: Oh, you know what?

2:43:38 Speaker 2: Let's play this. Track called Dope Slinger. This is from Witch Spire. And again, you can see them tonight. It'll be the first time I will have seen them, that we will have seen them, live. But they will be playing tonight at Terminus Underground. They are part of the show. Again, the band is Witch Spire. One word, Witch Spire. It's hard to say. And the track is called Dope Slinger.

2:44:01 Speaker 9: Dope Slinger.

2:44:19 Speaker 16: Thank you.

2:44:43 Speaker 34: Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.

2:45:12 Speaker 20: Let your tail cross the fast wind.

2:45:17 Speaker 34: And feel the throats linger.

2:45:19 Speaker 4: Let your eyes.

2:45:20 Speaker 34: Grind through time Turning white into red, oh Throats linger.

2:45:44 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. Yeah!

2:47:18 Speaker 17: Now she's a part of us. I'll see the bottom of my life.

2:47:21 Speaker 34: Bring the death in our chief. As you tear across the past with the killing. Don't sleep in.

2:47:39 Speaker 17: Let your eyes.

2:47:42 Speaker 4: Cries of death.

2:47:44 Speaker 34: Turn your mind into hell.

2:47:46 Speaker 17: Don't sleep in.

2:47:57 Speaker 34: Don't sing it Don't sing it Don't sing it Don't sing it Don't swing it Don't swing it Don't swing it Don't.

2:48:30 Speaker 9: Swing it.

2:48:54 Speaker 2: The track is called Dope Slinger. The band is Witchspire, and they are playing tonight at Terminus Underground for the Mental Health Benefits Show to support On the Road to Wellness. Again, they will be playing along with Phantasm, Graboid, Lobotomobile, PNPublic. That all happens tonight, doors at 7. Come on down. It's going to be a great time. And for a good cause, Terminus Underground at 134 Haynes Street in Nashua, New Hampshire. We are going to begin to wrap up because the time does go so quickly.

2:49:24 Speaker 2: And we do have a World Radio premiere. For those of you just joining us, if you missed it, you'll be able to hear it in just a couple of minutes from our friend Lydia Reddy, a great artist from the UK who will be back on the show soon, I am quite sure. But it's been a fun show today. Again, thank you to everybody who joined us. Of course, we had Tiny Magnetic Pets, Sam Lapidus, Soft Science, and a surprise phone call from Malcolm Wood from, of course, Legion of Solace. Next week on the show, in the first hour, the great Ricky Mapleton will be joining us.

2:49:55 Speaker 2: Always look forward to seeing him. He makes us laugh. We have a great time. He's definitely in the Five Timers Club by now. He's been on the show quite a bit over the last few years. Eddie Scholar will be with us in the second hour. And in the third hour, the return of Jamdemic, a great band from the area. I cannot wait to see them. So that will all be next week on the show. If you missed any part of today's show, it'll be up in just a little bit at WMNHradio.org. And, of course, at my website, MattConnerton.com and MattConnertonUnleashed.com.

2:50:27 Speaker 2: You can find us on all the socials and on YouTube, et cetera, et cetera. We're going to do two things to end the show this week. We're going to play one more track from Soft Science because I love this band so much. Again, from the album Sand, we're going to play the song Sway, which I think came up in our conversation. uh, with Katie and Ross. And then we're going to end with the world radio premiere one more time of the new single from Lydia ready, but, uh, that's going to do it for us for now.

2:50:55 Speaker 2: Uh, I will leave you with this sway by soft science. Hope to see you tonight at terminus underground doors at 7. And, uh, that's it.

2:51:02 Speaker 4: We're out.

2:51:03 Speaker 2: I'll talk to y'all a little bit later.

2:51:04 Speaker 23: Bye everybody.

2:51:05 Speaker 2: Stay safe out there. Ignore Easter. Don't get caught in a flood. It could be a lot of rain.

2:51:11 Speaker 35: All right.

2:51:12 Speaker 2: That's it.

2:52:35 Speaker 9: Time slows down with you in my life.

2:53:52 Speaker 17: Bye.

2:53:52 Speaker 23: Bye.

2:54:23 Speaker 17: This night is mine. Oh, I'm tired.

2:55:25 Speaker 9: You're listening to Matt Connerton Unleashed on WMNH 95.3.

2:56:00 Speaker 2: Right now, exclusively on Matt Connerton Unleashed, the world radio premiere of the new single from Lydia Reddy, This Is How.

2:56:09 Speaker 3: You are listening to WMNH 95.3.

2:56:11 Speaker 16: World premiere.

2:56:32 Speaker 5: Their feet on sand Made their way to the promised land Many a man have been played.

2:56:48 Speaker 6: To look the fool And just like them I.

2:56:53 Speaker 7: Followed down the world pool And I.

2:56:57 Speaker 52: Think this is how I die And nobody's questioning.

2:57:04 Speaker 5: Why oh why is this how I die I wanna make something of my life and not just cry they.

2:57:25 Speaker 8: Flew they flew.

2:57:32 Speaker 11: But I'll eventually die.

2:57:39 Speaker 12: Many a man have tried to escape their fates. I'd be a billion to one in a rat race.

2:57:51 Speaker 13: And I think this is how I die.

2:57:56 Speaker 8: And nobody's questioning why.

2:57:59 Speaker 34: Oh, I.

2:58:02 Speaker 54: This is how I die.

2:58:09 Speaker 5: I want to make some of my life. And I just cry. This is how I die.

2:58:20 Speaker 13: Pull the sun out the sun and watch as you crash and burn. Put on my chain, may you love.

2:58:36 Speaker 7: Her And live you with all.

2:58:41 Speaker 14: Of the trauma Come, may you live longer.

2:58:44 Speaker 4: Please make me.

2:58:46 Speaker 14: Stop suffocating Tighten my grip on my soul Pronounce my soul, Lord Be all the talk All I want, Lord.

2:58:56 Speaker 4: And I.

2:59:01 Speaker 46: You are listening to WMNHLP 95.3 FM, broadcasting from the top of 1000 Elm Street. Our studios are located at 119 Canal Street and licensed to Manchester Public Television Service in Manchester, New Hampshire.

2:59:19 Speaker 34: Contact us by email at WMNH953 at gmail.com or through our website at WMNHradio.org.