Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-19-26

0:25 Speaker 1: Strangers in my hallways, peaceful dreams are swimming in my.

0:31 Speaker 2: Head.

0:32 Speaker 3: Demon breathes its violent breath, suddenly it spreads its wings. Silence creeps strings in hell, dissonance amongst me all.

0:54 Speaker 2: Thank you.

1:37 Speaker 1: I can never go back home, for my life will never be the.

1:59 Speaker 2: Same.

5:00 Speaker 4: Welcome, everybody.

5:01 Speaker 5: Here we go. That was Eyes of Empathy by Sepsis, my favorite Sepsis song. And this is Matt Connerton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of WMNH 95.3 FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show anywhere. Go to mattconnertonunleashed.com, our new site, for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etc., etc. Today is a Saturday, September 19, 2026. It is a very, very big day for a couple different reasons, which you'll hear about.

5:33 Speaker 5: But first, I am not alone.

5:45 Speaker 6: Good morning, sunshine.

5:47 Speaker 5: Yes, Jenny is here at the news table.

5:49 Speaker 6: I am. It's been a while.

5:51 Speaker 5: We have a couple other fine gentlemen we're going to talk with in just a moment. But I do have an announcement to make. So we have a brand new sponsor here on Matt Connerton Unleashed and at WMNH. And that is Extrilli, a new rideshare service that is... locally here in Manchester, but they're hiring drivers and recruiting riders all over the place, of course. But you might have heard the ads. They've already started running, actually. We started them a little bit early. But very excited to have them on board a brand new rideshare company, which is exciting.

6:27 Speaker 6: Very exciting.

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7:11 Speaker 7: It's a doubly awesome day, then.

7:15 Speaker 3: Yes, yes.

7:16 Speaker 6: You have a new sponsor, and it's my favorite day.

7:18 Speaker 5: Yes, so we're very... Very excited about that. And of course, we do have, yes, today is Swarmy Fest 2026 happening tonight at Jewel Music Venue. And as has become a tradition, let me get those mics up for these guys. We've got the fine gentlemen from Legion of Solace are here with us. Welcome, guys.

7:37 Speaker 8: Hello.

7:39 Speaker 6: I believe they are five timers.

7:41 Speaker 5: No, can't be.

7:43 Speaker 6: It's been tradition that they've been here.

7:44 Speaker 7: We are on our fifth year of Swarmy Fest.

7:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, but these guys, you guys have been here all five times.

7:52 Speaker 9: Yeah.

7:53 Speaker 2: Really?

7:54 Speaker 5: Doesn't seem possible.

7:54 Speaker 8: Yep, yep, yep.

7:55 Speaker 6: Plus, they've come outside of that, too.

7:58 Speaker 4: There were a couple times I've been up on my own as well.

8:00 Speaker 5: That's true.

8:01 Speaker 8: That's true.

8:02 Speaker 6: Definitely five-timers.

8:03 Speaker 8: It's kind of hard for me to make it a, you know, 14 hours worth. It's a special, special crew.

8:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. So, guys, introduce yourselves. Tell us who you are and what you do in Legion of Solace. And to clarify, before we go any further, of course, I'm sure you run into this all the time, Legion of Solace is not a band.

8:17 Speaker 8: That's correct.

8:19 Speaker 5: But, yeah, go ahead, guys. Tell us about yourselves.

8:21 Speaker 4: So, I am Bruce Almighty. I am the New England contact for Legion of Solace. I also handle as much as I can of the Facebook and some of the social media presence. We also have our founder, our president, and our fearless leader, Tuesday, who isn't with us. She is down in West Virginia.

8:39 Speaker 8: She's not going to be in person, but she is on 10-1.

8:42 Speaker 5: Oh, you brought her with you electronically. Hello, Tuesday. I remember Tuesday from a couple years ago, yeah.

8:49 Speaker 4: Well, then we do have to pull the curtain back so she can't hide behind it anymore, don't we?

8:53 Speaker 5: There you go. And you, sir?

8:56 Speaker 8: I am Malcolm, a.k.a. however you want to pronounce it, or anything. It's kind of like Viking for murder, but hey, that's just a little too dark. But you can call me whatever, or quarantine with Malachi, because I do also do a radio show, a pod legion of solace that is One of my jobs in this job, and I'm one of the co-founders also of Leeds.

9:18 Speaker 5: Yes, yes. So, of course, you guys are here in town for Swarmy Fest, which does happen tonight. This is the fifth one, Swarmy Fest 5. If it seems, by the way, if anyone's a little bit thrown off, it is a little early this year because historically it's been in, traditionally it's been in November.

9:34 Speaker 8: Correct.

9:35 Speaker 5: But this year it is in September. So Swarmy Fest a little early this year, but we're very excited about it. So that is tonight. Doors open at 7 p.m. Music starts at 7.30. That is at Jewel Nightclub, which is at 61 Canal Street, which is kind of right across the street from where we are, actually. $ 20 at the door. It's 18+, 21+, to drink with ID. And on the show tonight, so of course, Sepsis is the.

10:00 Speaker 5: Headliner, but we've also got, now, I don't know how to say this, PH, how do you say, I know it's not Texera, and I looked up how to say it, and I couldn't get it. How do you say this? You guys know?

10:11 Speaker 4: I want to say that it is Teixeira.

10:14 Speaker 5: Teixeira.

10:15 Speaker 4: Almost like the last name?

10:17 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm supposed to be doing something with the R there that I can't do.

10:21 Speaker 4: It might roll a bit. It might be Teixeira.

10:23 Speaker 5: See, that's what it is.

10:24 Speaker 6: Sounds really good when he says it.

10:26 Speaker 5: It does. See, that's part of the problem. I cannot roll my R's. I've never been able to. I almost failed Spanish in school because I could not roll my R's. That turned out to be a bluff. The teacher did pass me.

10:38 Speaker 4: If you go back to an old commercial from the 90s, it'll help.

10:41 Speaker 5: Really?

10:41 Speaker 4: Ruffles have ridges.

10:43 Speaker 5: It won't help me.

10:43 Speaker 6: Oh, no kidding.

10:44 Speaker 5: I can't do it. I cannot roll my R's. I'll never be able to roll my R's. I can't whistle and I can't roll my R's.

10:50 Speaker 8: I can't do it either. Don't feel it over. I can't roll my R's.

10:52 Speaker 5: I don't think I can do it well.

10:53 Speaker 8: But the only time I can do it is with the Starburst commercial. What is it? I'm a little left with more berries and cream. Like, you know, I can only do it with cream.

11:02 Speaker 10: Right, right.

11:03 Speaker 8: That's it. That's it.

11:05 Speaker 5: Well, at least he can do it. I can't do it at all.

11:07 Speaker 8: A little bit.

11:08 Speaker 5: I cannot do it at all. Okay, so we have, I'll let you say it, Bruce. Who do we have again?

11:14 Speaker 8: Teixeira.

11:15 Speaker 5: P-H-Tish, however you say it.

11:17 Speaker 4: Good job.

11:18 Speaker 8: All right.

11:18 Speaker 5: The Gray Curtain, who was here with us last week. Grimly Acronym, who I think, if I'm not mistaken, this is going to be their last show for a little while, but what a great band. They have not been on the show, but I listened to their entire album and I was just blown away. blown away by it uh elder p sloan who was on the show with us a couple months ago love them singe who has not been on the show but i listen to their album on bandcamp and wow i cannot wait to see them and 3fd uh who also have not seen live yet but and they've not been on the show either but i'm sure we'll have that who knows maybe they'll pop in today but uh also uh the featured dancers the blood witch and reminisce uh who i think were they are the official swarmy fest dancers and i think they were there last year too if i remember correctly or definitely the blood witch was Sponsors, of course, BPS Records, who I believe are coming in today.

12:06 Speaker 5: This program, of course, Matt Connerton Unleashed, Loud Entertainment, and, of course, these fine gentlemen here, Legion of Solace and Tuesday as well, who is on Malcolm's phone there. So we're very excited for Swarmy Fest. And is there anything that you guys know about that I forgot to mention about tonight's show?

12:25 Speaker 4: I can't remember which band, but we did have one band that had to step away. So the Cherry Fog has graciously stepped in to fill that void. So the Cherry Fog will be joining us as a surprise guest this evening.

12:39 Speaker 5: That's awesome! Not a surprise now, but that is great news, though. I love them.

12:45 Speaker 4: I'd like to thank everybody that's coming out tonight. As I just found out this morning, we sold our last pre-sale ticket. For the first time in five years, we have sold Through the pre-sale.

12:56 Speaker 5: Oh, that's excellent.

12:57 Speaker 4: So thank you to everybody who has bought one in advance.

12:59 Speaker 6: I already got our tickets.

13:02 Speaker 5: That's fantastic.

13:03 Speaker 6: That is so cool.

13:04 Speaker 7: This is going to be a great night. This is one of my favorite nights of the year. Like literally, I look forward to this every, every year. It's always amazing. And I always get to see you guys, but I got a merch question for you. You made incredible braids. You made bracelets that said support local music. I wore mine out. Are you bringing some new ones tonight?

13:25 Speaker 8: Well, let's just break it down to what it is. The way the world is working right now, we are even struggling because, like I said, Legion of Sol is solely on us. I thought I was close enough, but I wasn't. My mic finally, like, drifts away from me. I'm sorry.

13:40 Speaker 5: That's all right.

13:42 Speaker 8: That's all right. But, like, right now, we're all on, like, you know, very budgeting right now. So, like, we still got to do more shirts and stuff like that.

13:50 Speaker 11: Yeah.

13:51 Speaker 6: Put me on your pre-sale list.

13:52 Speaker 8: Oh, definitely.

13:53 Speaker 6: Because I'll buy ahead of time.

13:54 Speaker 8: Because we still got to do Coins Who Are Malachi ones. I did a new t-shirt, too.

13:57 Speaker 6: Yeah, put me on that.

13:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope we have a pre-sale.

14:00 Speaker 8: We got to do shirts. Like I said, we all are themed out. Like Tuesday, she does her own radio show.

14:04 Speaker 11: Yep.

14:05 Speaker 12: Oh, she does?

14:05 Speaker 11: Yes.

14:06 Speaker 8: Hers is Dark Mistress. And then mine is Coins Who Are Malachi, which y'all have attended once before. But like I said, I've moved to TikTok. So now I'm having to readjust.

14:15 Speaker 12: You like it better?

14:16 Speaker 8: Oh, yes. Because even if it comes, like I said, if it comes down to it and somebody requests, A band that is well-known, I can still play it because, like I said, I made that scar up being a request radio show.

14:28 Speaker 6: I didn't realize that TikTok doesn't cut you off.

14:31 Speaker 8: No, it doesn't. Excellent. And then, like I said, predominantly what the format is for is unsigned and up and coming. Yes. But if it comes down to it and you have that one person that wants to come in, like, play Freebird, you know, whatever. There you go. I got to pull out for them. Even if I just give them the short version. I give you until the first chorus. That's it. And let it go. But for the most part, eventually we will be coming back with a lot more merch. It's just right now, hard times.

15:00 Speaker 6: It's a hard time right now for everybody. It is hard.

15:04 Speaker 4: Recently, Tuesday has also updated our logo. It's also going to be a full change in the merchandise store. I'm excited now. There were a lot of choices in the merch store before.

15:19 Speaker 7: When you guys get the new stuff, new logos and everything, you have to make sure you let us know.

15:23 Speaker 8: We make y'all special t-shirts and that anniversary is coming up soon too.

15:27 Speaker 6: Do you know that's hanging up?

15:28 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.

15:29 Speaker 6: It's hanging up right where he is.

15:30 Speaker 5: It hangs up in the podcast studio.

15:33 Speaker 2: 100%.

15:33 Speaker 5: Absolutely.

15:34 Speaker 4: It's also not only the fifth anniversary of Swarmy Fest, but as of September 9th, it's the fifth anniversary of Legion of Solace.

15:41 Speaker 2: Oh, wow.

15:41 Speaker 8: Oh, no kidding.

15:42 Speaker 5: Congratulations.

15:43 Speaker 8: Thank you.

15:43 Speaker 5: Congratulations.

15:44 Speaker 8: Thank you.

15:45 Speaker 5: I have a question, Malcolm, about TikTok, too. So they don't cut you off, but you don't. But obviously, what happens once the show is over? Obviously the video disappears or.

15:57 Speaker 8: Yeah. Cause some, well, I guess I don't know if it might be a part of the payment area, but I have to literally take it back to the TikTok studio and cut it. Okay. I have to break it down to where, to the limit of where I can share it and be on my stage.

16:11 Speaker 10: Gotcha.

16:12 Speaker 8: Me, myself, me learning a whole new format. It's going to take time because I want to make sure that I am doing everything accurate to the T.

16:19 Speaker 13: Right.

16:20 Speaker 8: As well as, because like I said, I'm not the greatest computer learner. Like, don't get me wrong. I used to be able to, you know, download my DVDs and CDs and all that stuff.

16:28 Speaker 5: Right, right.

16:30 Speaker 8: Allegedly. No, I'm just playing. But seriously, like, I've learned how to be able to, like, do the simplest things off the computer. Mostly computer. I am the person that does this. I am the one who speaks out because I am the people person. Yeah. So more along the lines, I do my radio show. I've learned how to do and set up my themes and everything else like that. Right. So I'm coming with everything that I have learned thus far. Because not only that, I want to make this a learning experience all the way from you being able to pull off your own radio show.

16:59 Speaker 8: Because like I said, the last time I told you, for many years, I've always wanted to be a radio DJ of an FM radio station. Yeah, yeah. So with me now creating our own platform and format, I have that chance to do that. But also because I'm not a very big person of like an authority, I can do it under my own stipulation.

17:19 Speaker 14: Right.

17:20 Speaker 8: And I don't have to worry about any of that.

17:21 Speaker 12: Right.

17:23 Speaker 8: Because I want to get back to that. That's what I grew up on, that old school radio where you have that occasional slip up. You have this blah, blah, blah. Things happen live.

17:31 Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.

17:31 Speaker 8: Okay, keep going.

17:32 Speaker 12: We're rock.

17:32 Speaker 8: We're metal. We're not perfect.

17:34 Speaker 15: Right.

17:34 Speaker 8: Nobody said we were Jesus. You see what I'm saying?

17:36 Speaker 5: Right.

17:37 Speaker 8: Seriously. So with that being said, we... That's why with this whole thing with Legion of Solace and coming to you every year and showing you how much we are improving, it's not only just to show you what we're doing and how much we love doing this. It's to teach you that you can go out here and learn about any and everything in the aspect of music and be a productive member of it that is going to help the society as a whole. Because like I told you last time, we are not cutting corners. We want to learn everything that we can.

18:09 Speaker 8: even all the way down to you know properly formatting my own stuff to where i can cut my own scenes i can do this yeah i if i'm going to pay somebody to do it it's just like being in the kitchen if i'm going to tell you to go make those fries for me and that chicken nuggets.

18:25 Speaker 5: Right i better know how to learn whoops sorry.

18:28 Speaker 8: I better know how to turn those nuggets and fries into a meal Me too.

18:35 Speaker 5: Sorry about that, by the way. I was trying to mute Bruce because he was coughing and I hit the wrong button.

18:39 Speaker 8: That's fine. You don't want to hear me talk. It's okay. No, but that's just what it is, bro. We want everybody to know that even me sitting here telling you this on FM radio and all this, we can sit here and sugarcoat what is going on in this world. But we want to tell you, as Legion of Solace, we are no game. We are no game. There is going to be hard times today. We might not be able to sponsor a band. I almost didn't make this.

19:05 Speaker 5: Really? At all.

19:08 Speaker 8: Like, literally, to the point where even the bus was trying to keep me from coming up here.

19:12 Speaker 5: Because the travel just being expensive?

19:14 Speaker 8: It left me behind for a day. That and just life hitting me.

19:18 Speaker 10: Yeah.

19:18 Speaker 8: You see what I'm saying?

19:19 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.

19:20 Speaker 8: It's even to the point where I can only do my radio show whenever I can get to it.

19:24 Speaker 2: Yeah.

19:24 Speaker 8: I'm not tired. Or scared I'm going to fall asleep mid-song because I'm working in a hot kitchen all summer long. Yeah. You know, having to be picking up hours because I need the money, blah, blah, blah, blah. But we want you to know that we are a full-out company. We are paying out of pocket. We don't have sponsorship. We don't have anything helping us. What we do when we come up here to do this is we're coming out of our own daily pocket money of rent. Right. electricity, whatever, and giving to the bands.

19:53 Speaker 8: So we show you that we're not just– we're practicing what we're preaching. Right, right. But also we can help you and show you how to promote yourself and start getting better. And if there's nothing that I can't, that I don't know, we're going to learn along the way then. How about that? Like reading rainbow. Yeah. Like we're just, we're just, we're just going with the flow.

20:13 Speaker 5: Yeah.

20:13 Speaker 8: So if it comes, it comes, if it doesn't, it doesn't, at least we try.

20:17 Speaker 5: Exactly.

20:17 Speaker 8: Yeah.

20:17 Speaker 4: And it also helps us understand and respect the struggle of the artists on the stage who are, who are playing for $ 150 every weekend.

20:26 Speaker 8: Sure. Yeah.

20:27 Speaker 4: Because like we understand that struggle as well because we're living it along with them.

20:32 Speaker 11: Yeah.

20:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, 100%.

20:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, so if y'all are struggling, we're struggling. It's no thing about that. We're not going to go out here and try to boast your head like we're out here making money on doing these shows and putting together all this. Some of these shows... we're not getting anything. Yeah. Yeah. We're not even expecting anything. Right. You see what I'm saying?

20:53 Speaker 5: Oh, I do.

20:53 Speaker 8: Yeah. All we're expecting is to get some more likes and more follows. That's going to actually help build the community. Yes. That way when I go live or he goes live, just even announcing what he did with his show, announcing, you know, flyers has been coming out no matter where they're at in the world. If just us, if you just want to send your flyer and say, Hey, this band and such and such is playing in Tallahassee. You know what I'm saying? And we're nowhere near it. It doesn't matter. Right.

21:16 Speaker 8: We want, we want to bring it back completely as a full on new society of the underground world passing on flash. Cause you never know who could be on the road traveling to a destination. It was like, well, we got to stop here in this town and just so happen. We stop it in Tallahassee.

21:32 Speaker 11: Right.

21:33 Speaker 8: Oh, we're going to see this, but Oh man, let's go. That's the whole point. We want to cause webs and not just anywhere. We want, we want mating season in Australia. And if you look it up, you'll be like, oh my God, who goes outside during this?

21:47 Speaker 5: Yes.

21:48 Speaker 11: Yes.

21:48 Speaker 8: Like, it's horrible. When I say, you think, have you ever seen at-league freaks? You ever think that these big spiders, no, there's literally big spiders that's like, Full-out plate size on your wall.

21:59 Speaker 5: Trying to kill you, yeah.

22:00 Speaker 8: When they're mating season, there are webs everywhere.

22:03 Speaker 11: Oh, really?

22:03 Speaker 8: These picnic tables, you can see that they're starting to nest. Wow.

22:08 Speaker 7: Any desire that I have ever had of going to Australia has just left the building.

22:12 Speaker 8: I am so sorry.

22:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, no kidding.

22:14 Speaker 8: But if you pick the right time and you pick the right place, you're good.

22:17 Speaker 12: Yeah.

22:18 Speaker 8: Not with my luck. But don't be surprised when you come back to your cabana and You have a big old spider carrying an iguana up the wall. You know what I'm saying? It's an everyday thing over there.

22:28 Speaker 11: Oh, wow.

22:29 Speaker 8: It's nothing.

22:30 Speaker 4: A huntsman spider is about the size of a crab.

22:34 Speaker 5: Wow. No kidding.

22:35 Speaker 8: And I love, I'm not scared of spiders. But there's something that I cannot like, I hate to say this because I'm an animal lover too. That I can accidentally crunch on my foot. Oh, yeah. That's too much.

22:47 Speaker 5: If you can hear the crunch, it's too big.

22:48 Speaker 8: It's too big.

22:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. With any kind of bug or anything.

22:51 Speaker 8: If I can't put my hand on it, at least put a cup over it to kind of scoop it out the door. Right. No, I'm shooting you. You're a threat.

23:01 Speaker 5: I had an experience once when I was a kid where I woke up and there was a spider. There just happened to be, it was just a daddy long legs or whatever, but there just happened to be a spider walking. on my pillow next to me when I woke up. And I just remember fleeing from the room and not going back in for a while.

23:15 Speaker 8: Well, that's crazy because those are the world's poisonous, one of the, like, the second world's poisonous spider in the world. It just can't bite you because its fangs are not thick enough to get through your skin.

23:23 Speaker 5: Oh, interesting.

23:24 Speaker 8: Highly venomous. I didn't know that. If it actually somehow did Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle on you and ate some ooze and grew up, I mean, you're dying rapidly. You're pretty much drying up, withering away into a cocoon. Right, right. Quickly.

23:43 Speaker 5: Oh, that's interesting. No, I didn't know that.

23:45 Speaker 8: I didn't know that.

23:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, man.

23:46 Speaker 8: It's crazy.

23:47 Speaker 5: So where does the name, and I know we've talked about this before, but for new listeners, where does the name come from, Legion of Solace? What is the origin of that?

23:54 Speaker 4: That predates me, so I'll let Malcolm tell you about that one.

23:57 Speaker 8: Well, pretty much Legion of Solace, it kind of plays into the tie of our Phoenix, too. Like, we are a legion of pretty much solaces that don't fit to the norm of the traditional platform and layout of formula of music society. We want to give the truth at all times.

24:14 Speaker 5: Yeah.

24:15 Speaker 8: And if you look up what Legion of Solace is, technically in history, if I'm not mistaken, it was a society that stand against, well, anarchy, the world. Yeah. Because it wasn't being led right. Everybody wasn't being treated fair. Yeah.

24:34 Speaker 4: And the establishment.

24:35 Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty much. It was all about, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. It's a couple of legions of solaces out there.

24:42 Speaker 11: Okay.

24:43 Speaker 8: Technically, this one that I looked up, it was a history of pretty much a band of people who literally worked together that didn't care for the norm because it wasn't right. It wasn't written right. You see what I'm saying? So pretty much, but also the Phoenix is our predominant stamp because we are a company who have been in other places doing stuff like this and being in a club aspect and all that stuff and then turned to find out that this society is was just as much as a snake as a manager who was just trying to rip you off.

25:17 Speaker 8: You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. If you don't work with what we were trying to do, we don't want you.

25:24 Speaker 12: Right.

25:24 Speaker 8: Like, we're not for no pay-to-play crap. We're not for the normal society of what the music industry is today, or what I like to call the cesspool on my show. I don't like the cesspool. I don't like it. I don't want to be primordial ooze. If we say, I don't want to be like Demolition Man frozen in a society and come out and I'm still this old school way because I'm an 86 baby, 90 baby attitude area. And then you get into this new age and everybody's like, well, you got to do it like this. And they're like, no, because the way I came from it was predominantly if you're the artist, just like in the movie Queen, if you're the artist, you have the power.

26:04 Speaker 8: You work for me. I'm not working for you. Either we do this Or we don't. And you can go bye-bye. Because that's what I grew up on, on learning about this music society. If you're out here putting your blood, sweat, and tears into the music society, who am I to tell you how to run your sound? Just like you've been doing it for 20 years. Just like my friend Frankie Dunn from the band Hateful Bones that I told you about. The band that I'm in. That band ran for so many years before I even got into it.

26:35 Speaker 8: He didn't fit to no norm. He didn't fit into nobody else's society. People even tried to sign him. He wiped his butt with it. Literally. And threw it in the audience. Because he doesn't care for stuff like that. I grew up watching this man network and even get our own bands on concerts with Flaw on two Blue Ridge Rock festivals. Play with so many people. I mean, if you don't believe me, I have the receipt. I mean, we've been playing with a lot of people. I'm just talking about for the listeners out there.

27:06 Speaker 8: Some people are like, oh, you probably get on the radio and boost. Like, no. What I'm telling you is the realness. Like, the Malcolm you get on this mic is the Malcolm you get off this mic. I've been putting my time on both sides of the spectrum. That's why we created Legion of Solace. Because even Tuesday herself has many friends that's been inside the music world. And has gone for so many years. Barely a lick of listeners through Spotify and all this other bull crap. But if you actually had a full-out format like this that actually dedicates itself to up-and-coming and unsigned talent, why wouldn't you?

27:48 Speaker 8: That would help so much. Right. Especially being that people can come and see bands that are up-and-coming and can eventually be in that top tier right along with you know, the soon-to-be-retired, you know, fully God-smacking, glamour guy. Because eventually all these guys that you're loving so much and seeing on all these festivals, they're going to go bye-bye. What do you think is going to be next? Yes, you might still have stars to prevail because he is a very young guy. But he is out here putting on old-school shows, if you get what I'm saying.

28:18 Speaker 8: Like, he's putting on a two-, three-hour show even after the opener. Right. You see what I'm saying?

28:23 Speaker 5: Right, right.

28:24 Speaker 8: Oh, let's go do this quick hour show real quick and, you know, make a couple thousand dollars and we're going to go home guys and get back on the, you know, the plane and head back to wherever. Yeah. No. This guy is out here like making awesome shows like you're going to go see, you know, Rammstein. You got two opening bands, but you got three hours of Rammstein you got to go through. You better hope you can survive. You better hope you brought water.

28:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, the pyro.

28:52 Speaker 8: Is hot. I saw Godsmack with a thousand horsepower dude. When I saw that, and I'm sitting there in North Carolina, 90 degree day, been in the sun all day long. I'm still drenched in sweat from earlier in the day. Thousand horsepower come on. As soon as it gets to the course, boom. they started throwing just flares on the chorus part. And I mean, dude, I didn't dry it up, sweat again, dry it up, sweat again, through the whole entire song. So, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, I've seen both sides of the world.

29:20 Speaker 8: I just want people to know out there in this world that this company, Legion of Solace, is about having a format dedicated to where anybody can come have their stuff being played. It doesn't matter where you're at in the world. If you're unsigned and you need a platform to be seen on, Even if you got a, get over to it, see it on America and send it to me through YouTube, whatever. As long as it's clean audio, as long as it's clean video, I'm going to play you. Tuesday's going to play you. If you've got fires, he's going to make an announcement about it.

29:52 Speaker 8: We're here to be that center web in a whole eventually. Where every other web is leading off of this.

29:59 Speaker 15: Right.

29:59 Speaker 8: To where if bands are out here and they're like, man, we lost the show because such and such happened. Well, Legion of Solace, hit those guys up. Which path are you going? We'll pretty much do it old school map style. We'll put a thumbtack right here. Which way are you leading with the red cord? Okay, well, Texas, we got you. We got somebody down in Texas that can help you out. Here we go. There we go. Sign it off. All right, on to the next one. I mean, it's time to reset.

30:24 Speaker 4: Put it that way.

30:25 Speaker 8: Because if you look at it back in the day, look how easy... But also hard, don't get me wrong, to get into the music scene and get at least to where you're a livable status in the music scene, whether you're assigned to a major company or not.

30:40 Speaker 5: Sure, sure.

30:41 Speaker 8: Through the ages of music to now.

30:44 Speaker 12: Yeah.

30:44 Speaker 8: And see how hard it is just to get you a music, your own music video that you probably even directed yourself onto a TV station, a podcast, or whatever, or even just your music played on an FM radio station. It's not that easy anymore. It's not like how Queen did. It was just, oh, you roll up, here's my seat. The 45 of me, like 35 minutes ago, here you go, play that for me, and we're going to sit here and chat for a second. It doesn't work like that anymore.

31:10 Speaker 4: That's because the days of pirate radio from the 60s and 70s are gone. And that's what's great about the digital age, because TikTok, Discord, Snapchat, all of these other video and social platforms are are basically the second coming of pirate radio, if you'll think about it.

31:30 Speaker 8: Yeah.

31:30 Speaker 4: But as with all things, it's evolved. So now instead of radio programs, look at how many bands are getting booked on festivals and blowing up and becoming as big as nationally signed acts before they get signed. Electric Cowboy, for example. They started on TikTok.

31:51 Speaker 14: Yeah.

31:51 Speaker 4: And they're everywhere now.

31:54 Speaker 5: Festivals are huge for these artists because I tell everybody who comes on the show, anytime anybody mentions a festival, I'm like, that's the best opportunity you can find. Because not only does it get you in front of an audience that might not otherwise see you, and it's a chance to really exponentially expand your fan base very quickly, but it's also the best networking opportunity you could ask for. the people that you're going to meet backstage, the industry people that you're going to meet and get to have conversations with and hopefully make a good impression on.

32:25 Speaker 5: Festivals are huge.

32:29 Speaker 8: Even with that, because we sponsored Blue Ridge Rock Festival one year. Some festivals are not great at communicating with you. With us being a sponsorship, we didn't know that we had free will to walk up on any stage we wanted to. As long as we didn't go back to where they're homes or their RVs or whatever is at, if you're up on the stage, we could have went up there and shook hands with them, handed them a card and said, we want a sponsorship, take a picture. We didn't know none of that stuff.

32:56 Speaker 8: They couldn't actually link us to give us better connections with people and network better. Not everybody is for that. Everybody's like, well, you want a sponsorship? Well, we'll give you the sponsorship, but we're going to leave some gray area. Like I said, we didn't know that we could have gotten to put our cars in so many hands and been like, Because so many, predominantly it comes down to this. The more bands we can get out and chance to see whether you're unsigned or not, and we can put a card in your hand.

33:24 Speaker 8: Yeah. Or a stack of cards in your hand because you are the main ones that are going to play more with these other unsigned bands and up-and-coming bands when you're touring. So it's, that's just like I said in Will's interview the other day, it all boils down to, especially in the underground society, even if you're playing a bill and you are playing, well, we're such and such and we're playing tonight at this place, but you don't call out the rest of those bands.

33:49 Speaker 2: Right.

33:50 Speaker 8: That's not supporting. Right. Or you not standing out there in front of those bands when it's time for them to play, whether you're the headliner or not, that's not supporting.

33:58 Speaker 12: Right.

33:59 Speaker 8: And anything that comes into society that's like this, that is homegrown, that is somebody sitting inside their home doing like radio show or whatever, and it is helping to... We need to get back to that society. Nobody, like, do you know how many times I used to spend my nights in a beat-up truck, work truck of my dad's, listening to, you know, public radio? Not even music playing in it. Just NPR.

34:23 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.

34:24 Speaker 8: Just straight-up talking about everything.

34:26 Speaker 10: Yeah.

34:27 Speaker 8: And not beating around the bush. Right. I come from an era where you were more tended to talk seriously instead of beating around the bush and sugar-coating things. Let's get back to the facts. We need the support. The support is going to be needed for these bands. That's why a lot of these venues, like, I don't know, I lost maybe one of the biggest hubs in my hometown because it killed. We only literally had seven of us coming there. We had Gemini Syndrome. Actually, Avatar did their very first show.

34:57 Speaker 8: You can quote me this because I actually have the video at home of those guys when they're saying their first stop on their way from Gothansburg, Sweden. was lynchburg virginia they did their very first show it before before avatar got to where they were at at yeah like they were still well known but they won't know until they came to america okay like you know i'm saying like you if you dug deep yes you knew who avatar was right before they hit the main market it was their first american date but their first american date was Lynchburg, Virginia at Phase 2.

35:30 Speaker 2: Okay.

35:31 Speaker 8: Where I watched them play, and I fell in love with that band. That's what I'm saying. We lost that hub ever since it was Catalanys. Seven Dust, you can even ask them themselves if anybody can ever meet with them and talk to them. Yeah. One of their famous places that they always used to say was Catalanys, a.k.a. Phase 2 in Lynchburg, Virginia, because they sold out a house every night, and it was so much love. Oh, yeah. I mean, when we lost that catalyst, it sucked. And then we got Blue Ridge Rock Festival.

35:58 Speaker 8: Then if you look up the history of what happened with Blue Ridge Rock Festival.

36:01 Speaker 2: Yeah.

36:01 Speaker 5: I remember you guys talking about that before.

36:03 Speaker 8: It sucked. I mean, we had a bad experience where even that network could have been helped. We could have helped it even better if it wasn't like it was.

36:14 Speaker 4: Blue Ridge was a good model. Blue Ridge is also an example of growing too big too fast and what happens.

36:21 Speaker 5: Okay.

36:23 Speaker 4: They went from Three stages and 20 bands took a year off for COVID and then came back. Originally, they had, I think it was 163 bands across six stages in four days.

36:36 Speaker 8: Oh, my God.

36:38 Speaker 4: So they went from the splash pad to the wave pool.

36:41 Speaker 11: Right.

36:41 Speaker 5: Yeah.

36:42 Speaker 8: If they would have stayed there, if they would have, like, I literally, where they started out at was in a vineyard place, literally 10 minutes up the hill from my house. Yeah. Like, literally, I could walk there if I needed to hurry up and get there. Yeah. and it was just in that back area. If he would have stayed there for a little while longer and let it build. Because if you think about it, if you go back and look at the build at those first three shows, it was my band and a bunch of other local bands, whether it was from this state or not.

37:09 Speaker 8: And then you had some national acts with it too. Like predominantly in the first couple, you had Head P.E. playing on a couple of them builds. You see what I'm saying? Like you had national standing acts there, but predominantly a lot of it was backfield with local bands. Okay. You see what I'm saying?

37:26 Speaker 5: Yeah.

37:26 Speaker 8: A lot of these festivals, if you think about it, when they first started, they started out in the local underground scene and then it helped push to where it ended up generating either the money to afford a national act to keep pushing some. But no, what we want to do is we want to eventually get to that status. Right. But what is going to happen is it's not for the ones who already have the awesome resume to come play. We want to have it to where a couple of those nights, the headlining act, Helps, yes, drawing the crowd, but it also gives the opportunity for local bands to play in front of bigger crowds and get more known to being in front of those bigger crowds.

38:04 Speaker 16: Right.

38:05 Speaker 8: And also add to their resume that I got a chance to go play with Lamb of God and share the same stage with them.

38:10 Speaker 4: We actually have our first event like that coming up.

38:12 Speaker 8: Yeah.

38:13 Speaker 4: October 30th, Platinum City Gaming in Taunton, Massachusetts.

38:17 Speaker 5: Okay.

38:18 Speaker 4: We have Rags to Stitches, Under the Horizon, Scarecrow Hill, Gwello. And the 45th anniversary of the greatest punk rock puppet show on earth, Green Jello, will be in the building.

38:30 Speaker 8: Nice, nice.

38:31 Speaker 5: No kidding.

38:32 Speaker 12: Yes.

38:32 Speaker 8: And see, that's what I'm saying. We're slowly doing things. Like he said, we're slowly getting things and we're doing awesome things.

38:38 Speaker 2: Yeah.

38:39 Speaker 8: But that's what I'm saying. Without that fundamental support of all, like what you're doing too, that's why I give you so much praise. Yeah, I appreciate it. With what you do with your show, brother, and you bringing in these bands that really nobody knows and giving them a platform to talk on.

38:51 Speaker 5: Yeah.

38:52 Speaker 8: And then we, you know what I'm saying, Green Jello, we're hitting one of our goals now of being able to locate and get an awesome band. Because I grew up on that. Especially one song in particular, Three Little Pigs.

39:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of course.

39:05 Speaker 4: And now that we've moved into a partnership with Loud Entertainment, who works with us and Sepsis for Swarmy Fest every year. So now we have the ability to put together our own shows in partnership with Larry.

39:19 Speaker 5: Excellent, yeah.

39:21 Speaker 4: So now I like to tell everybody that there's only one thing left we can't do for your band, and that's to get on stage for you.

39:28 Speaker 8: Yeah.

39:29 Speaker 4: We can, we, I, now I, I'm, we're finally in a position that we can make a phone call, put together a bill.

39:34 Speaker 2: Okay.

39:35 Speaker 4: And if, if we can, if we can get the bill sold, we can, we can put you on a stage.

39:40 Speaker 8: Excellent. And if not, I'm still working on my part down here, which I've gotten really good with Colin of the place called super ad arcade bar, which he's a, He's an old school guy who actually does his own little band thing called Super Sad. And he helps with any local bands, dude. What they do there at Super Sad is the exact example of what we do because that is a whole family, a whole network of clusters of bands, artists who are trying to eventually get into bands, people who have always wanted bands and started their own bands.

40:15 Speaker 8: And then, like I said, Colin, like I tell Colin all the time, dude, from Superbad. If you are watching this, Colin, shout out to you and what you're doing, brother, because he's bringing people of all ages. Just like, you know, little kids. I'm seeing little kids watching, you know, the old member of Saliva playing live on stage in my own backyard. And these guys bringing their kids to a safe place that has got awesome arcade games and hanging out. and giving them the whole feel of what it used to be like going to go watch a metal band, just being, whether it's a hole in the wall venue or a gaming place or whatever.

40:53 Speaker 8: Yeah. It's just Super Red is doing the awesomeness. And I love the fact that they do it because I'm a part of that community too. Oh, that's excellent. And they're a big support.

41:01 Speaker 4: Speaking of community, while I'm speaking about loud entertainment and Halloween weekend, Halloween night up here in New Hampshire, I want to say it's Jaffe, New Hampshire, the park theater. Lords of Salem, which is a Rob Zombie tribute, will be opening up for the East Coast Alice Experience, the East Coast Alice Cooper.

41:20 Speaker 5: Oh, okay.

41:20 Speaker 4: And that is, like I said, that's Park Theater, Jaffe, New Hampshire. I believe you can find a ticket link on the Loud Entertainment Facebook page for that as well.

41:29 Speaker 5: Okay, okay.

41:30 Speaker 8: Oh, we forgot to say something else about the Green Jell-O show.

41:34 Speaker 11: Oh, yes.

41:34 Speaker 8: There is a contest.

41:35 Speaker 4: Yes, there's a $ 500 cash prize costume contest, and if.

41:38 Speaker 8: I remember correctly.

41:40 Speaker 4: The Factory of Fear Haunted House in Fall River is sponsoring that portion of our program that night. That's the October 30th show at Platinum City Gaming in Taunton, Mass.

41:50 Speaker 5: Oh, very good.

41:50 Speaker 4: Very good.

41:51 Speaker 5: By the way, Green Jello holds an interesting record in the history of this program because they've been on the show because they had played in Manchester at the Shaskine. And then they actually came on the next morning, which was cool, because usually bands, you know.

42:04 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm waiting to go home.

42:05 Speaker 5: Right, right. But, yeah, so they hold the record for the most number of times I had to hit the dump button, because we're on an eight-second delay. Yeah, Bill....

42:18 Speaker 4: That's just Bill being Bill right there.

42:21 Speaker 5: And it wasn't like every time was a swear because he did slip a couple times, but I think two of the times he slipped and then the other three times where he just said things where I was like, oh.

42:31 Speaker 8: It kind of sounds like you said that one.

42:33 Speaker 5: Oh it's saturday morning i don't know if i can let that go out on the air so it's all you know it's all in the podcast.

42:39 Speaker 4: That's what's so fun about green jello is i love them you love them but craft foods hates them right right and.

42:46 Speaker 8: That's an awesome thing we're like so we're still got tickets for sale too for that absolutely there's plenty of room please i mean anybody who's out here listening on the radio if you actually listen to this and you know we hit your heartstrings, please come out to the show, man. It would be awesome. I'm actually going to try to make the trip back up here for it. This will be the first year trying to pull off two trips, especially for me. It's very hard to, you know, up here to be able to do this.

43:12 Speaker 8: But I kind of don't want to miss this because this is a good stepping stone and, you know, golden thing that we are doing now because, And showing that, yes, if you do everything right and, you know, if you slowly build it, they will come. Yes. Things will work out great. You'll be able to build the right connections. You'll be able to build the right linkage with people and know that when you're done talking with them, you don't feel so greasy. Yeah. You don't feel like you need three showers and, you know, a bleaching.

43:39 Speaker 11: Right.

43:40 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying? And a colonoscopy.

43:42 Speaker 3: Right.

43:42 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't want to feel like you need, you don't feel like you need to, like, fully just like, ugh, I just need to throw everything in a fire. Because I mean, I've been there. I've sat there and talked with people who are up here. I'm like, man, I can do this for you. I can do that for you. And it's just like, either I want a trash can to hurl in or I need a shower. I've just been like, s-aid horribly like just you just you touched me in my 90s it didn't feel right right right it just i'm sorry to say like that that's no i get it how i have to explain it because it's crazy oh yeah in this world that you can sit here and look me in my face especially like when you watch some of these movies of these iconic members of the music world and that are getting ripped off, especially with Queen.

44:33 Speaker 8: If you look at Freddie Mercury and his story, it's like, dude, you literally need somebody who you called your best friend, who said they loved you, but the whole entire time behind their back, they're ripping you off. Oh, yeah. They're doing this. They're keeping you away from your goal of being phenomenal.

44:49 Speaker 4: Of what you were until you woke up from it. Another example of that is the story of TLC.

44:54 Speaker 8: Yeah.

44:55 Speaker 5: Oh, triple platinum and broke. Crazy, sexy, cool.

44:59 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. And then you caught a mansion on fire and you're completely gone. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it's just what do you want your story? What do you want your stuff? Regardless if this company makes it to the full pinnacle or not, I know I'm going to leave my stamp in this world of being somebody who supported all music. Right, right. Yes, right now we're starting the genre of heavy metal and all that, but that's right now, that's the one that needs the most help. Yeah. Because the cowboy rap stuff is doing great.

45:28 Speaker 8: The regular R & B and rap, you know what that is. Let's not go there. That's a whole other segment on its own. You know what I'm saying? And then you got jazz. Everything else is still in its fine-tuned era. Mm-hmm. But if you've been where I've been and the scenes that I've seen.

45:46 Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.

45:47 Speaker 8: Over the 20-plus years I've done it, Randy and I are like, that's not enough, Tom. You ain't got ZZ Top, Tom. It doesn't matter. You can see a lot in 20 years.

45:54 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.

45:55 Speaker 8: Especially even before 20 years. You've got to think, at 13 years old, I was following Eight for Bones. When they was doing these shows at Alleycats in Richmond and going down to North Carolina to pretty much literally a hole in a wall area and watching all these other bands play and see them fail. to the point where the band is no longer anymore. Those CDs, you might as well count them as non-existent. And then you see Hateful Bones still going even to this day, even with switching up new members.

46:24 Speaker 8: It's awesome to see that you can be somebody and do something and live your life without ever having to sell your soul or sign your life away. Because that's technically what that contract is. You're selling your soul to be used as another number, another notch on the music world's belt instead of you building that community and making it a family and truly know that, hey, I might just call Malcolm, come over here and make this turkey for Thanksgiving dinner. He does make an awesome deep fried turkey.

46:53 Speaker 8: Or how about we call Bruce, come on over here and we hang out and we all just have a big smorgasbord and enjoy some new music and just for the heck of it, what kind of new music did you listen to this month? And just whatever it is, I want that closest to where that family is that family that's away from family feels like your actual blood family. Right, yeah. I want to know, like, I want it to be like, what's the movie called? Almost Famous. Yeah. When you see that, who is the one I kind of do that you remember the most?

47:21 Speaker 8: Red Dog. What's going on? Hey, brother, how you doing?

47:25 Speaker 16: Like, everybody.

47:26 Speaker 8: I know exactly who you are. I've seen you last year. I might not remember your name, but I know you.

47:30 Speaker 16: Hey, brother.

47:31 Speaker 8: Everybody's hugging each other. I want it like that. Yeah. Like, Almost Famous style. Pretty much. I'm sorry that everybody's like, you look at movies, that's just a fantasy. No, you can put that into existence. All you got to do is be an honest person and be true to your word. And if you can't be true to your word, at least try to uphold it as much as possible as you can.

47:51 Speaker 16: Hold well to your promise.

47:52 Speaker 8: You're going to fail. If you're a human being, just like I am, we're going to fail.

47:57 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how you learn.

47:58 Speaker 8: But yeah, that's what I'm saying. We're going to take these fails, but as long as I don't sit here and cut corners on you. Deprive you of the knowledge of what you need to know. And if I don't know it, let's start it together. Right. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. If they think that's going to make us closer together to the point where I'd rather have called this guy to come in and deal with Charles, you know, shenanigans.

48:22 Speaker 5: Right.

48:22 Speaker 8: Then I have to worry about me calling in some guy who was just there for his paycheck who's got other people under his belt, too, that he's going to take care of.

48:32 Speaker 17: Right.

48:33 Speaker 8: To get a job done. No good. You know what I'm saying?

48:35 Speaker 5: Absolutely.

48:35 Speaker 8: I'd rather deal with honesty.

48:37 Speaker 5: Oh, I do want to just acknowledge to everybody in the Facebook live chat who's checking out the live show. If you are just joining us, we've got Bruce and Malcolm from Legion of Solace here with us. And we're talking about Swarmy Fest, which is coming tonight. And, oh, I just got a message from somebody who was supposed to call in, but he's late. I'll have to get with him. But let's see. Tyler Lester Ashbrook in the chat says, I see my boys, Malcolm and Bruce. Very good. And Malcolm, I see you're in there, of course.

49:06 Speaker 2: Shh, don't talk about it.

49:08 Speaker 5: Tyler says, just doing some programming. Great time to tune in.

49:13 Speaker 4: Tyler also does some great concert photography.

49:15 Speaker 8: Oh, really? Yeah. You met him last year.

49:18 Speaker 5: Oh, okay.

49:18 Speaker 8: Yeah, you met him. Oh, cool.

49:20 Speaker 4: So if anybody in Massachusetts, New England, Connecticut, if you need some photography work done, feel free to reach out to him if he's available. He'll be more than happy to come and shoot for your shows.

49:32 Speaker 5: Oh, outstanding. Okay. Oh, I see Tuesday is in there. Hello, Tuesday. Let's see. Charlie Rossi says, Malcolm Wood, hello, buddy. Just want to make sure we don't miss anybody in here.

49:43 Speaker 8: Yeah, I shared a lot.

49:46 Speaker 10: No, I'm glad.

49:46 Speaker 5: That's why I was looking at the phone. That's good. I like to see, you know, a lot of people just check out the podcast later, but I love to see a busy live chat room.

49:54 Speaker 8: No, dude, that's what I want. I want talking in it.

49:56 Speaker 5: When we're live on WMNH. Yeah, I love it. Uh, Chastity Sprouse, uh, is in there. Let's see. Wade Connor says, yo, Malcolm. Uh, let's see. Let's make sure we don't miss anybody here. Robert Blumenfield. Oh, Blumenfeld.

50:09 Speaker 8: Yeah.

50:10 Speaker 5: Uh, says I definitely need a Legion of Solace shirt. Awesome interview.

50:14 Speaker 8: Excellent.

50:14 Speaker 5: Mandy Deskins, Deacons. Oh, Deacons.

50:17 Speaker 8: Yeah.

50:17 Speaker 5: Uh, says love you, Malcolm. Uh, deck W Davidson. The second says Malcolm. Good morning. Uh, let's see. Uh, Cody?

50:27 Speaker 8: Cody Hinkle.

50:28 Speaker 5: Oh, Cody Hinkle?

50:28 Speaker 14: Yeah.

50:29 Speaker 5: Says, aha, speaking the truth, I grew up with Malcolm.

50:32 Speaker 8: Oh, very good. Yeah.

50:34 Speaker 5: Generation Socially says, Malcolm, we say good morning from us. Jeremy Allen, preach it, brother, much. Generation Socially says, oh, yeah, we say this is a consequence of I think generation socially might be our friends from Greensboro who are our AI friends. Just judging from the way that sentence was worded.

50:58 Speaker 8: God knows what part of the conversation was that.

51:02 Speaker 5: Leslie Stone says, BRRF left a lot to be desired. DWP has it down pretty good.

51:09 Speaker 18: Yeah.

51:10 Speaker 8: Blue Ridge Rock Festival did suck. They fell off. That was Blue Ridge Rock Festival.

51:13 Speaker 12: Gotcha, gotcha.

51:14 Speaker 8: But I went to DWP, and I went to their one and only year of Epic Center. Yes, there is going to be problems sometimes with weather, which we did. Yeah, yeah. Which I never got to see, too, which I'm upset about that, too. If you're just having to see this, please throw me a ticket. I would love to see you guys. But that was an awesome festival that had local bands with it, too, and all that stuff that I turned on. Oh, okay. DWP does awesomeness.

51:38 Speaker 4: For those who aren't familiar, DWP is Danny Wimmer Presents. That is the entity behind Welcome to Rockville, Sonic Temple, Incarceration, Bourbon and Beyond, Louder Than Life, and I believe they're also behind the Aftershock Festival as well.

51:55 Speaker 5: Okay. Tuesday said, we want the music scene to be a true community and family instead of everyone struggling. And trying to beat each other. Yep, absolutely.

52:05 Speaker 8: Let's see.

52:05 Speaker 5: Leslie Stone says, yes, too much growth, too fast. I think referring to Blue Ridge. Summer Rain says, and that year was a blank show at BRRF.

52:15 Speaker 8: Because she was there when the horrible, horrible show that really put it out of this mind. she was there for that.

52:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the year, that was 2023. That's what I'm saying, like, I.

52:25 Speaker 8: Got my, I got my, I got my ear to the ground in all sorts of communities, brother. That's what I'm saying, like, I learned, me being in the shadows lets you, it goes back to the rush I was saying. It's like, you know, when you let people who talk too much, they eventually show you who, you know, I'm kind of taking away some of the words, they truly show who you really are. You see what I'm saying? Like, how full of crap you really are. And, and, Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes it's out of your control.

52:55 Speaker 8: But in some actions like Blu-ray Drag Festival, a lot of that was well in your control. You know what I'm saying? And you didn't want to. You would rather it fall under certain stipulations to where you can get out of it and you not be held responsible for any of it. But a lot of people still do hold a lot of those people that were part of Blu-ray Drag Festival at their place. Because I haven't, for all the way up until those last few years, I never had a problem with Blu-rays. Yeah. You see what I'm saying?

53:21 Speaker 8: Even going down to the very last year, which was a DWP event, Carolina Rebellion, which is the very last one of that, without a hitch. Yeah. Epic Center, without a hitch. I mean, like, a lot of events without a hitch. You know what I'm saying? But obviously with Blue Ridge, because I'm not going to lie, we are the seven hills. Like, being up in Lynchburg, Virginia and around that area, it is kind of difficult to get in a lot of spots to be able to stack in and actually have a proper place. But the V.I.R., Where he was at last was the perfect place just not organized for crap.

53:55 Speaker 8: You see what I'm saying? You're trying to get too big too quickly. You should have kept it more cordial.

54:02 Speaker 5: Right, right. Very good, very good. Well, Larry is here from Loud Entertainment. Oh, your mic is off.

54:10 Speaker 6: We have a surprise appearance.

54:12 Speaker 5: Oh, very good, very good. We don't have a lot of time because we're going to have to get to a break pretty quick, but let me get that... That mic up there. But welcome. Good morning, Larry.

54:22 Speaker 8: Good morning.

54:23 Speaker 10: How's everybody doing today?

54:24 Speaker 8: Good, good.

54:24 Speaker 10: Wicked excited about Swarmy Fest this afternoon.

54:27 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

54:27 Speaker 5: Absolutely. Can't wait.

54:29 Speaker 10: Can't wait.

54:30 Speaker 5: Absolutely. Now, and somebody, so somebody dropped out, right? And Cherry Fog is taking their place. Is that correct?

54:37 Speaker 3: Yes.

54:37 Speaker 10: Cherry Fog is going to be replacing them.

54:39 Speaker 5: Okay. Who was not there?

54:42 Speaker 8: I couldn't remember. Okay.

54:43 Speaker 10: Let me just think about it for a minute.

54:46 Speaker 5: Just so I don't keep saying it. It'll come to me. Okay. Well, actually, here, I'll just go through.

54:52 Speaker 4: It wasn't 3FD, was it?

54:54 Speaker 8: Nope.

54:55 Speaker 3: Nope.

54:55 Speaker 10: 3FD, Cherry Frog replaced. I'm trying to remember who it was.

54:58 Speaker 5: So on the list here, I've got PH. I'm sorry, PH. How do you say that, Bruce?

55:03 Speaker 8: Teixeira. Them.

55:05 Speaker 5: The Gray Curtain, Grim the Acronym, Elder P. Sloan, Singe, and 3FD.

55:10 Speaker 4: I want to say it was the Great Curtain, now that I've had a little time.

55:13 Speaker 5: To think about it. Oh, no, really? Oh, they were here last week. Well, I know Grimley Acronym is going through a bit of a shakeup with their lineup.

55:19 Speaker 10: It was one, and I honestly can't remember.

55:22 Speaker 8: Okay.

55:23 Speaker 5: All right. Well, maybe Will will tell us. But, no, very, very glad you're going to be there tonight, obviously. Loud Entertainment, always. We've got to get you back on.

55:35 Speaker 8: The show, too.

55:36 Speaker 5: Love to come by yourself so you can talk get us updated on everything going on i think the last time i saw you in person was it at the um the band from texas was up awaiting abigail awaiting abigail yeah we.

55:51 Speaker 10: Saw them but there was one other time i've seen you.

55:53 Speaker 5: Oh there was a time since then i.

55:54 Speaker 10: Remember what we were where we were yeah yeah on stage.

55:57 Speaker 5: But yeah yeah yeah you're right you're right yeah i think it was a jewel we were a jewel for uh i can't remember what the last show we were a We were at Jewel 4. All right, we are approaching the top of the hour. We've got, I mean, Larry, I mean, if you want to, I think we've got BPS records coming in in the second hour.

56:13 Speaker 19: Okay.

56:14 Speaker 5: But if you wanted to stick around, you can, because I don't know how many people are coming in. But guys, thank you so much.

56:21 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

56:22 Speaker 5: Where should people go? Where's the best place to go online to keep up with everything you guys are doing with all things Legion of Solace?

56:28 Speaker 4: Either the Legion of Solace Facebook page, the Legion of Solace TikTok, the Legion of Solace... snapchat.

56:36 Speaker 8: Uh we have a discord we have we have a discord or like i said you can go to you can go to separately the dark mistress the legion of solid extended family we actually post it's not there too we have we actually like we have an actual area for extended family and everything to where you we can post everything but for the most part stick to facebook to give you the updates and links to where we're going to but until we I don't have an official Coins for Malachi page for the radio show. Oh, okay. I'm using my personal page on TikTok to do my radio show.

57:04 Speaker 5: Oh, right, right.

57:05 Speaker 8: You see what I'm saying? So literally, if you want to look up Malcolm Wood on TikTok, I got you. Or you can find me through Facebook, through Coins for Malachi. The Legion of Solace page stays open for any and everybody to come post flyers, whatever. If you want to stay in contact with us, you can always reach us through that and message us. you'll either get one of the three of us that you will be talking to. Absolutely. So you can always get a hold of us through the messenger, whatever. That's predominantly where our, our foundation is of being able to just to network, you know, written comment style.

57:37 Speaker 8: But, Roughly, you can catch Malcolm any weird time.

57:40 Speaker 5: All right.

57:41 Speaker 4: That's what the Legion of Solace extended family Facebook page is about, is it's a network hub. The bands can post their flyers themselves. They can interact with one another.

57:50 Speaker 8: Set up their own little thing, whatever.

57:52 Speaker 4: You don't need us as a work through or a mediator. If one band wants to talk to another, feel free to message each other through that particular group.

57:59 Speaker 8: That's what it's for. Okay.

58:01 Speaker 5: All right. Very good. And just to remind everybody too, before we go to break, Swarmy Fest 5, for those of you listening live on Saturday, of course, yes, it is the fifth annual Swarmy Fest tonight and doors open at seven. So we have, so Sepsis, of course, the headliner and what were you going to say, Larry?

58:17 Speaker 20: We are giving away that's autographed guitar for everybody. Every band that's passed through Loud Entertainment this spring has signed this bass guitar and And we're going to have a big giveaway. If you come to the door dressed in yellow, you get a free entry into the drawing.

58:32 Speaker 5: Oh, very cool. Very cool.

58:33 Speaker 8: Excellent. All right.

58:34 Speaker 5: Good to know. Sepsis, of course, headlining. And we've got the Gray Curtain, Grim the Acronym, Elder Peace, Sloan, Singe, 3FD. And the Cherry Fog is on the show. And the, of course, PH, Hattie Sabers.

58:46 Speaker 8: It's a shatter.

58:47 Speaker 5: And I'll thank you. Larry, I can't roll my eyes.

58:50 Speaker 10: I was listening on the way in. I understand your problem.

58:53 Speaker 8: You need a Bruce hotkey. That's what you need. That's a good idea.

58:56 Speaker 10: And remember, the ruffles never reach.

58:58 Speaker 21: Yeah.

58:58 Speaker 8: You got to roll your eyes. But can I throw a quick shout out?

59:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, go for it.

59:03 Speaker 8: Yeah. I just want to thank everybody who has actually in time shared or liked or even just followed us through our journey. over the past five years. Even wanted to decide to work with us even if it was just a one night stand. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Thank you everybody. Thank you for all the friends who are following and live and talking on the chat. Thank you to everybody who has just been out here fully supporting the whole entire scene as much as possible as they can. All we need to do is just make this hub 10 times more stronger.

59:30 Speaker 8: And we can do this all on our own. Once again, like how we used to be back in the day.

59:34 Speaker 5: Excellent.

59:34 Speaker 8: I love it.

59:35 Speaker 4: Without bands that work with us, we don't exist. So thank you to every band that has ever said yes.

59:41 Speaker 10: Yeah.

59:42 Speaker 5: Very good.

59:43 Speaker 10: Everybody.

59:44 Speaker 2: All right.

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1:12:13 Speaker 5: That is called Horsey. The band is singe as we have now entered our number two numero dos of Matt Connerton Unleashed. And we are live from the studios of WMNH 95.3 FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to MattConnerton.com or actually go to MattConnertonUnleashed.com, our new website for all of your live streaming options, social media. Oh, can't bring that in here.

1:12:39 Speaker 8: Sorry.

1:12:40 Speaker 5: Go to mattconnertonunleashed.com for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etc., etc. We're going to talk about Singed in just a moment. We're going to talk more about the big event tonight, SwarmyFest. But right now, joining us via phone, Aaron Bilodeau is here with us, the best bass player I know.

1:12:58 Speaker 2: Hey, Aaron.

1:12:59 Speaker 26: Good morning, Matt.

1:13:00 Speaker 8: How are you doing?

1:13:01 Speaker 11: Good.

1:13:01 Speaker 5: How are you, my friend?

1:13:02 Speaker 26: I'm doing great this morning.

1:13:04 Speaker 5: And you are calling because.

1:13:07 Speaker 26: Because tonight at 6 o'clock at the spot, I'm doing a show called Thank You, Bass Player. It's going to be eight different bass players doing 20-minute sets. Tim Doucette, Jason Sculls, Kelsey Brumaghim, Michael Mendonca, Nathan Fennell, Christopher Beaton, Shane McWilliams, and John Clifford.

1:13:29 Speaker 5: Jeez, that is a hell of a lineup. most of those people I know but you know as a Jenny and I of course we're going to be at Swarmy Fest tonight but I love what you're doing as a bass player myself as you know not a terribly proficient one but I am a bass player so I love what you're doing I support it I think it's amazing and I always say you know I have this conversation too with every bass player who comes on the show you know bass players just don't get enough love you know guitar players get all the glory but bass players we're kind of the glue that holds the whole thing together right Right.

1:14:01 Speaker 26: You know, we've got to stick together and do stuff like this.

1:14:05 Speaker 2: 100%.

1:14:06 Speaker 5: Okay, so that is tonight at the Spot in Nashua, and.

1:14:09 Speaker 26: That starts at 6 o'clock.

1:14:10 Speaker 5: 6 o'clock? All right. Very good. Very good. And if people want more information, where should they go online if they want last-minute updates and so forth on social media?

1:14:23 Speaker 30: Well, I got flyers all over my Facebook and my Instagram, but I've also posted them on all the local pages, like the Nashville and the Manchester pages.

1:14:33 Speaker 5: Okay, outstanding. Very, very good. All right, well, good luck with the show, Aaron. I assume there will be video of it available, hopefully?

1:14:42 Speaker 8: Oh, of course. Excellent.

1:14:43 Speaker 5: Excellent. Well, good luck with the show. I can't wait to see how it comes out. I'll check it out online. I'll check out the video. And I'm sure it's going to go well, my friend. I feel good about it. So congratulations. Congratulations in advance on the show.

1:14:56 Speaker 26: From one bass player to another. Thank you, bass player.

1:14:59 Speaker 5: Thank you, bass player.

1:15:01 Speaker 8: All right.

1:15:02 Speaker 5: Thanks for calling, Aaron.

1:15:02 Speaker 8: Take care.

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1:16:14 Speaker 5: OK, so Larry from Loud Entertainment has returned. Hello again, Larry.

1:16:17 Speaker 8: Good morning.

1:16:18 Speaker 5: Larry was with us in the first hour if you missed it. And of course, we have the fine people from BPS Records. Please introduce yourselves because it's been two years since you were on the show. It's been two years. Yeah. So please introduce yourselves.

1:16:31 Speaker 19: I am Hot Rod, the owner and founder, and all of the other hats.

1:16:38 Speaker 8: Okay. And I'm John.

1:16:39 Speaker 31: I'm a stagehand, and the rest of the help do a lot of the other moving parts of BPS Records.

1:16:47 Speaker 5: Okay, okay.

1:16:48 Speaker 19: All of the other hats.

1:16:50 Speaker 5: All of the other hats, yeah. And then, so the first time that you were on the show, and again, it was a couple of years ago, you had a third person with you. Are they still?

1:16:57 Speaker 19: Who came with us last year?

1:17:00 Speaker 8: Remy.

1:17:01 Speaker 5: Oh, is that who it was?

1:17:01 Speaker 15: Yeah.

1:17:02 Speaker 6: It was Remy?

1:17:02 Speaker 8: Yeah, Remy was with us last year.

1:17:03 Speaker 19: Remy was supposed to be here today. Unfortunately, she had an injury to her.

1:17:09 Speaker 8: Both.

1:17:09 Speaker 19: Say it for me.

1:17:11 Speaker 12: Both meniscus.

1:17:12 Speaker 5: Meniscus, yeah.

1:17:14 Speaker 12: Tore both meniscuses.

1:17:15 Speaker 19: Oh, that's... Big shout out to Remy at home.

1:17:20 Speaker 5: I was wondering that. It does sound like it would have a Latin plural, doesn't it? It does sound that way. Well, of course, so if you are just joining us, the reason that everyone is here today is Swarmy Fest. It is that time again. A little early this year. It's in September. But Swarmy Fest tonight, Swarmy Fest 5 at Jewel Music Venue. It's at 61 Canal Street, right across the street. Jenny and I will be there, of course. And Jenny, we haven't mentioned, too, you're bringing something with you tonight to present at the show, correct?

1:17:51 Speaker 5: I don't know if present is the right word, because I don't think you're going to have it on stage.

1:17:55 Speaker 8: Display.

1:17:55 Speaker 5: That's the word I was looking for.

1:17:57 Speaker 7: I finished a cape piece that took me months and months and months and months to make. from scratch by hand, and it lights up, and it's cool, and I thought, why not bring it to Swarmy Fest and just show it off?

1:18:08 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:18:08 Speaker 6: Because it's cool.

1:18:09 Speaker 8: Good for you.

1:18:09 Speaker 5: I just hope it fits in the car.

1:18:12 Speaker 6: It's going to fit in the car. Oh, my God. You're being such an over-exaggerator.

1:18:17 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, it's really big.

1:18:19 Speaker 6: It's shorter than me.

1:18:20 Speaker 5: Well, it is, yeah.

1:18:23 Speaker 12: Stop it.

1:18:25 Speaker 6: That's enough you.

1:18:25 Speaker 5: So are we going to put it in the front seat?

1:18:27 Speaker 18: Mm-hmm.

1:18:27 Speaker 5: Oh, my God.

1:18:28 Speaker 8: Stop it.

1:18:29 Speaker 19: No.

1:18:29 Speaker 5: I'm going to put you.

1:18:30 Speaker 6: On the roof.

1:18:31 Speaker 5: I'm going to.

1:18:32 Speaker 6: Put it in the passenger seat, and I'm going to drive.

1:18:34 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying it because we're going to have to lay it flat, right? No, but it's a big thing. I want people to understand it's a big thing. It's on a dummy. This isn't just like.

1:18:42 Speaker 6: It comes off the dummy.

1:18:43 Speaker 19: Wait, you can learn a lot from a dummy.

1:18:45 Speaker 6: This is true.

1:18:46 Speaker 8: Yes, that's true.

1:18:47 Speaker 19: You can ride with us, Jen.

1:18:49 Speaker 8: Oh, there you go.

1:18:50 Speaker 6: Like the bottom part comes off.

1:18:52 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:18:53 Speaker 5: Okay. Well, I didn't think we could take it.

1:18:57 Speaker 6: You want to watch something humorous, watch us load in.

1:18:59 Speaker 5: Wait, so we can actually take it apart and put it in the car?

1:19:03 Speaker 13: Yes.

1:19:03 Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't realize that. Well, because all this stuff is on it.

1:19:07 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, because I was just going to wrap it up and throw it in the car like that.

1:19:10 Speaker 5: Well, that's what I thought. But if we have to, we can take it apart is what you're saying?

1:19:14 Speaker 6: If we have to. But I don't think we're going.

1:19:15 Speaker 5: To have to. No, I think it'll fit. No, but it is big.

1:19:18 Speaker 12: It will fit.

1:19:19 Speaker 5: It's a big deal, though. Because we want people to understand, this isn't like just some little chintzy thing.

1:19:24 Speaker 2: Oh, no.

1:19:25 Speaker 5: Oh, my God, no. This is a big deal that you did.

1:19:27 Speaker 6: I portrayed a huge cape.

1:19:28 Speaker 5: You've worked very hard on for... When did you start it?

1:19:33 Speaker 12: Oh, God.

1:19:34 Speaker 2: Um....

1:19:36 Speaker 6: Beginning of the year, end of last year, I started working with the cape.

1:19:39 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:19:40 Speaker 6: The cape took a really long time, but it took even longer to put all of the embellishments on.

1:19:45 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:19:45 Speaker 6: Because there's like little butterflies on it.

1:19:48 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

1:19:49 Speaker 6: The suspense is killing me.

1:19:50 Speaker 5: Oh, wait till you see it.

1:19:52 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:19:52 Speaker 6: It's heavy, though.

1:19:53 Speaker 19: It sounds like it's right up my alley.

1:19:55 Speaker 14: Oh, really?

1:19:55 Speaker 16: Yeah.

1:19:56 Speaker 6: I always come with things that light up.

1:19:58 Speaker 8: Cape.

1:19:59 Speaker 5: Did you put any bees on it?

1:20:00 Speaker 18: No.

1:20:04 Speaker 5: Oh, for the swarm.

1:20:05 Speaker 8: For the swarm.

1:20:06 Speaker 6: I may or may not have something bee-related.

1:20:11 Speaker 5: Involved.

1:20:11 Speaker 19: Yeah, maybe.

1:20:12 Speaker 5: I recently had to destroy a hornet's nest. I don't know if that counts.

1:20:15 Speaker 6: Those are awful insects. Those aren't bees.

1:20:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Well, so tell us again, for newer listeners, for the uninitiated, tell us about BPS Records.

1:20:27 Speaker 19: So we are located currently in Middletown, Connecticut. We are basically, it's always hard for me to, like, give my eight seconds of explaining what we do. It's so complex.

1:20:37 Speaker 8: Well, we got time.

1:20:38 Speaker 5: Don't feel like you have to rush. We got time.

1:20:40 Speaker 19: Okay, so I guess the best thing that I can say is it's the independent label for the independent artist.

1:20:46 Speaker 5: Okay.

1:20:47 Speaker 19: So, you know, what all the including factors of that, your one-stop shop for, thank you, your one-stop shop for. You know, all promotional value to your career. Everything is tailor-made to you. So you don't have to go outside, spend money and do things as well as we offer our platform. So full service inside the studio, as well as marketing promotion, PR, we participate and we support everybody that's independently supporting themselves.

1:21:15 Speaker 8: Right.

1:21:16 Speaker 19: Because, you know, it takes a village, I guess, right? That's what they always say.

1:21:19 Speaker 12: Right, right.

1:21:20 Speaker 19: But, you know, if we're not out there, you know, there's one thing I can't stand more than anything in the world, and I'll say it and I don't care who hears me, but don't come to my shows that I put on all this stuff for you guys and not stay and support the other bands.

1:21:34 Speaker 5: Right.

1:21:35 Speaker 19: That's a big deal for me. You know what I mean?

1:21:38 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:21:39 Speaker 19: I don't care if you're not even spending money and you're just there enjoying what we're presenting it for.

1:21:45 Speaker 5: Right.

1:21:45 Speaker 19: Stay and support the other bands. I mean, we did a show recently. I was very upset, but I didn't say anything because, you know, to each his own. But the first band went, when the last band went on, who's phenomenal, by the way.

1:21:57 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:21:58 Speaker 19: But they went outside and sat outside.

1:22:02 Speaker 29: Oh.

1:22:02 Speaker 19: The whole crowd had already left. The least you could have done was stand in front of this band. So for me, that says a lot about your integrity and your path to your independent music career.

1:22:13 Speaker 11: Right.

1:22:13 Speaker 19: So we we invite people that are ready to present themselves appropriately and then we'll take that and wherever you need help, we assist in that area. OK, so like. I think I said this last time is I had this list of demands for anyone that signed to my label.

1:22:29 Speaker 15: Yeah.

1:22:29 Speaker 19: And it starts with, it's all commonality of common sense, right?

1:22:33 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:22:33 Speaker 19: Must be able to attend.

1:22:36 Speaker 5: Right, right.

1:22:37 Speaker 19: Must be on time.

1:22:39 Speaker 10: Must be breathing.

1:22:40 Speaker 19: Right, right. Don't forget your microphone.

1:22:43 Speaker 8: No, just kidding.

1:22:43 Speaker 19: But like, you know, that stuff that unfortunately a lot of these artists fail to realize, like you're not successful yet. So you have to show the world why. You worked so hard to be successful.

1:22:57 Speaker 5: Right.

1:22:57 Speaker 19: And how you show up makes that.

1:22:59 Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1:23:00 Speaker 20: And all of us know in the back of our head, that's kind of an unwritten rule. I mean, you get invited to a show, hang out and watch the whole show. Don't come do your thing and leave and not support the bands that just stood in front of you.

1:23:12 Speaker 13: Right.

1:23:12 Speaker 10: I just think it's wrong.

1:23:13 Speaker 19: A hundred percent.

1:23:14 Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1:23:15 Speaker 19: I think like, so what we stand for, I'm going to say that a lot. We stand for a lot of things, but what we stand for is bringing that that original, you know, industry back to the industry because it's, it's all seemed like washed away and forgotten. And that's so frustrating to me, especially as a singer.

1:23:36 Speaker 10: Oh yeah.

1:23:36 Speaker 19: I mean, I don't want to hear myself, but I want you to hear, you know what I mean?

1:23:40 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

1:23:41 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:23:42 Speaker 5: Um, one of the bands is playing tonight.

1:23:43 Speaker 8: Singe.

1:23:43 Speaker 5: We played, uh, uh, that song horsey that, that I love. Um, and there now you're, you've been talking with them, right. About bringing them on board.

1:23:51 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:23:52 Speaker 19: Was it last year? It was before my vacation.

1:23:56 Speaker 8: Yes.

1:23:56 Speaker 10: Okay.

1:23:57 Speaker 19: So I had a vacation that I had to take and it put everything on a sabbatical. So we came right in hard with revamping the studio and putting on our shows because it doesn't matter if my bar is open or any of the extracurricular things I do to make money. If the music wasn't happening for X amount of time, I have to make up for that.

1:24:16 Speaker 29: Yeah.

1:24:17 Speaker 19: So we immediately started putting on shows and I'm like fangirl, not able to hide that when I like really want to sign someone or like them and it can be aggressive. And I know that, that it sounds like the old record label contract devil memes, you know, cause I'm like, what do you need? I'll give it to you. Like, but, um, so when singe performed, I knew everyone else on the bill. I usually do my homework and everything, but I didn't know anything about them cause I didn't realize this was like their first real performance.

1:24:47 Speaker 5: Oh, no kidding.

1:24:48 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:24:48 Speaker 19: I love getting that. We get a lot of that when I'm like, Oh, how long have you been performing? And they're like, This is like really our first time. And I'm like, I'm so honored.

1:24:56 Speaker 12: Yeah.

1:24:57 Speaker 10: You know, I was just going to say that's a good, that's an awesome thing to hear.

1:24:59 Speaker 30: Yeah.

1:25:00 Speaker 10: They get an opportunity and that's what we're here for, to create opportunities.

1:25:03 Speaker 29: Right.

1:25:04 Speaker 19: A hundred percent. And give what we've learned along the way.

1:25:07 Speaker 11: Right.

1:25:07 Speaker 19: Kind of to these younger bands. And so I literally dropped what I was doing. I came running down from the VIP and was like taking pictures. Just the whole presentation.

1:25:17 Speaker 18: Yeah.

1:25:18 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:25:18 Speaker 19: Was so monumental. And I think the way I explained it, I immediately was like, don't leave.

1:25:22 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:25:23 Speaker 19: We have to talk, you know, kind of thing.

1:25:24 Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah.

1:25:25 Speaker 19: Um, but to get to the point of, of, of, uh, what happened there is yes, I would love to sign them. I'm working on that. I gave them an opportunity. They jumped on it by no means did have anything to do with them. My, you know, life we talked about before balance and tying up things that could suck you back to your old life and things like that is what I needed to do. So I handled that. And in the mix of it, uh, Time had separated us, but this is my peace offering to singe to show them how valuable I think they are and to get everyone else to know.

1:25:56 Speaker 19: And whatever comes of that comes of that.

1:25:58 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:25:59 Speaker 19: You know what I mean? I will constantly support them and show up for them no matter what.

1:26:03 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.

1:26:04 Speaker 19: They're worth it.

1:26:04 Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1:26:05 Speaker 19: You heard it yourself.

1:26:06 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:26:06 Speaker 19: The story behind them is pretty great too. As far as like, you know, they're all so different and they come together in a seamless way that is like nature to them.

1:26:16 Speaker 14: You know what I mean?

1:26:17 Speaker 19: So, and it shows, I think I said to them, I said, you kind of give me this like Maynard and Ozzy and LeJean got together and had a baby.

1:26:31 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:26:31 Speaker 5: Is what I said.

1:26:32 Speaker 19: And they were like, oh my God, it's so amazing. Cause you don't think of yourself the way others do, you know, as a, as a musician. And I meant it. And the more I listen, I could add even more superstars to it. And Some of them I don't even think they know. They just are doing right music.

1:26:47 Speaker 10: Yeah.

1:26:48 Speaker 19: They're doing it right. They're doing it good. And I love it.

1:26:50 Speaker 14: Yeah.

1:26:50 Speaker 12: Yeah.

1:26:51 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:26:51 Speaker 19: And I want to see them succeed at whatever it takes, you know?

1:26:54 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:26:55 Speaker 10: Now that's excellent to hear somebody boasting somebody else. Oh, yeah. Everybody needs to help each other.

1:27:00 Speaker 12: Absolutely.

1:27:01 Speaker 10: You know, it's one big community.

1:27:03 Speaker 20: And if we keep fighting against each other in the middle, no one's going to collaborate and have fun. And that's really what it's all about. We all know there's really no money here.

1:27:11 Speaker 8: It's fun.

1:27:12 Speaker 16: We enjoy it.

1:27:13 Speaker 20: You know, we enjoy putting the shows together, the buildup of it, advertising it, the night of the show. And sometimes you wake up that next morning when you have a really good show and you're still... feeling like you're in that moment.

1:27:25 Speaker 8: Oh yeah.

1:27:26 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:27:26 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

1:27:27 Speaker 5: Absolutely. Um, who else have you been working with at BPS records?

1:27:33 Speaker 19: Um, so we've been, we've had, it's almost a, almost was a year sabbatical. Um, but we are right back into our punk shows. We do our concerts every Saturday. So we've been doing all local bands down there. Um, some new ones. I want to, we're going.

1:27:47 Speaker 8: To do it.

1:27:48 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:27:48 Speaker 19: We got to talk about lost soul right now. Lost Soul hit me similar to the way Singed did, but in a whole different bracket, right? So they're a little more older and weathered as far as their experience, but just as seamless. Singed is just as seamless as them, so I don't want that to come off the wrong way. But, you know, when a bassist, and we just had this conversation, so it was interesting listening to you guys. I made a joke about how that's why the drummers get all the girls. You don't see the bassists walking around arming up girls, but they're the glue.

1:28:19 Speaker 32: Right.

1:28:20 Speaker 19: They're the glue to the music.

1:28:21 Speaker 8: Exactly.

1:28:22 Speaker 19: But when you have a bassist and you have a lead guitarist that can look at each other across the stage and can I say stage sex? Is that allowed?

1:28:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can say that.

1:28:32 Speaker 19: That's the nicer version of it. And then boom, like the room is powered by that combination.

1:28:39 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:28:39 Speaker 19: No matter what. And they just ebb and flow so– I can't explain it enough yet because I'm, like, I'm in awe when they play.

1:28:47 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:28:48 Speaker 19: I actually let them put their first sticker on my new sticker wall.

1:28:50 Speaker 5: Oh, no kidding.

1:28:51 Speaker 12: Yeah.

1:28:52 Speaker 19: Everything about them is phenomenal. And I did– the first thing I said to them was, keep September open for next year. I'm bringing you up to Swarmy Fest. So they'll be a great addition to Swarmy Fest. So check them out. They are L-O-S-T-S-O-L. So it's like an ambigram of Lost. I love it.

1:29:11 Speaker 5: Oh, okay.

1:29:12 Speaker 19: Yeah, it's pretty dope.

1:29:13 Speaker 8: That's cool. Yeah, yeah.

1:29:14 Speaker 14: Super cool.

1:29:14 Speaker 19: And they are on Instagram. Who else do we got going on?

1:29:18 Speaker 8: So Infamous.

1:29:19 Speaker 31: They're another great band that played at our spot.

1:29:21 Speaker 19: Yes, definitely.

1:29:23 Speaker 10: Definitely check them out.

1:29:24 Speaker 31: Sucked In was another great band that played at our spot.

1:29:28 Speaker 16: Three-piece band.

1:29:31 Speaker 19: The performances are just so profound, right?

1:29:33 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:29:33 Speaker 19: So they keep it at their original punk, right?

1:29:36 Speaker 8: Original punk, yeah.

1:29:36 Speaker 19: So sometimes we got ska. We got a lot of ska punk bands that come in, but hardcore and all that. And then the support they have for one another is the opposite of what I was just complaining about.

1:29:47 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

1:29:47 Speaker 19: It's phenomenal. And I just, I'm like a little kid. I remember being back at the bomb shelter, you know what I mean?

1:29:53 Speaker 5: The bomb shelter, yeah.

1:29:54 Speaker 19: Now I'm aging myself. And I would sit there and just be like, this is what music's about. I don't care. If we make it anywhere, like right here in this shelter is where it's at. And that's the vibe that you get from that. So I love doing that. We do that every Tuesday.

1:30:10 Speaker 12: Okay.

1:30:11 Speaker 19: So if anybody wants to have their, this isn't about, we don't make money off these bands or anything like that.

1:30:18 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:30:19 Speaker 19: Whomever hosts, I give promotions to the promoters too. So I'll let them run my night.

1:30:25 Speaker 5: Okay.

1:30:25 Speaker 19: So for their promotion as well. It's kind of like a woven thing. factory of all of the money staying in the in the presentation staying within the artistry okay we all make money off our own talents i don't need to make money off yours yours and yours because i've already built what i'm making my money off of so we do that even for the promoters so we work with soundhound who um you know started with us to get their band list for promotion okay off and then they went off when we took a break and did their own thing but they're back um So a big shout out to SoundHound.

1:30:58 Speaker 19: If you want to be on the Punkvilles, you can check us out or you can check out SoundHound on Instagram. We want somebody, we want bands that not necessarily come with people. That's our job, right? It's my facility. We want bands that are like, people need to hear. I need fans.

1:31:13 Speaker 8: Right, right.

1:31:14 Speaker 19: You know what I mean? And do that work and do that promotion. We're going to bring our fans and we're going to help you learn how to bring your new fans, right?

1:31:20 Speaker 10: Okay.

1:31:21 Speaker 19: So there's that. We're doing this really big movement right now, keeping metal... Keeping Middletown metal.

1:31:27 Speaker 31: Keeping Middletown metal.

1:31:28 Speaker 5: Okay.

1:31:29 Speaker 19: I'm afraid it's turning into a bomb shelter vibe in a negative way.

1:31:33 Speaker 5: Really?

1:31:34 Speaker 19: It's too underground.

1:31:35 Speaker 10: Okay.

1:31:36 Speaker 19: Nobody in Middletown is booking heavy metal, hardcore, or rock in any ways that I feel like that's where it started for me.

1:31:45 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:31:45 Speaker 19: You know what I mean? If I didn't see, damn, I will age myself a lot, but I've been front row at OzFest. you know what I mean? Screaming at Ozzy, like those kinds of experiences I think are a must, you know? So, um, we have some, I don't want to mess it up. I always do. This is it salt, salt of the earth record label.

1:32:07 Speaker 12: Salt of the earth.

1:32:08 Speaker 5: Okay.

1:32:08 Speaker 12: They were here a couple of years ago.

1:32:10 Speaker 8: Okay. They were here a couple of years ago. Okay.

1:32:12 Speaker 19: Phenomenal. Um, we're going to try to link up with them this year. Um, but right now I'm doing the independent artists band. So these bands that, Might need a little more structure from BPS to put together a presentation, but we're giving them that grace. October 24th is going to be our first big rock showdown. We had some talks at JAM on Thursday about potentially doing like a Swarmy Fest post party in Connecticut. So I'm going to see if we can't get that to happen with the Swarmy Fest team and, you know, keep it moving.

1:32:49 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:32:50 Speaker 19: Because we don't want to do it just once a month. You know, we want to kind of really build that. If you're going to keep a genre alive, you know, you can't just, oh, hey, remember us?

1:32:58 Speaker 16: We do this.

1:32:59 Speaker 5: Right, right.

1:33:00 Speaker 19: You know, so that's our next endeavor.

1:33:02 Speaker 8: Okay, okay.

1:33:03 Speaker 12: I like it.

1:33:04 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

1:33:05 Speaker 19: You got to come down.

1:33:06 Speaker 10: I'm going to come check it out.

1:33:08 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

1:33:08 Speaker 19: So we did rebuild the studio.

1:33:11 Speaker 5: Okay.

1:33:12 Speaker 19: You know, when you have to take a break, you can't just come back and dust off the machines, right?

1:33:15 Speaker 5: Right, right, yeah.

1:33:17 Speaker 19: So we took... Hot Rod Spotlight Lounge and we merged it. So we've now got this second mezzanine speakeasy, legit speakeasy balcony level. So we've got the whole VIP, like old school traditional green room VIP hanging off the balcony. You got the, you know, the bar, the lounge, the dinette, and it's a full service studio. So you're now on the top and you see down to like the whole Oh, that's cool. You know, you can do videos there.

1:33:48 Speaker 12: You can do anything you want there.

1:33:49 Speaker 19: So, you know, get on in on that.

1:33:51 Speaker 8: Great vibe. Great vibe.

1:33:52 Speaker 19: We don't ever want to leave.

1:33:54 Speaker 3: Right, right.

1:33:56 Speaker 19: Yeah, my kids will text me, everything all right?

1:33:59 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:33:59 Speaker 19: Told you to come.

1:34:01 Speaker 5: Right, right.

1:34:02 Speaker 19: Yeah, because we are all ages.

1:34:04 Speaker 8: Okay.

1:34:04 Speaker 20: That's another thing that's great. Letting parents introduce the children to it, too.

1:34:09 Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1:34:10 Speaker 18: 100%.

1:34:10 Speaker 10: Next generation needs to be here.

1:34:12 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:34:12 Speaker 19: Doing, like, bring your child, bring your parent. Like, Mommy and Me jam sessions and stuff, I think, is really important. We did just get a— my host, Chuck Peterson, he was supposed to be here, too, but he got a gig, and you know how that works.

1:34:27 Speaker 29: Yeah, yeah.

1:34:28 Speaker 19: So, he hosts my musician's jam. So, instead of being, like, open to the public, per se, for anyone to come in, like, an open mic is, we do musician's jam. So it's for musicians to check their ego at the door, come on in, and make music together live on the spot. So I may learn from you something I would have never learned by myself, right, or whatever level. So now I got kids from School of Rock messaging in that, can we come?

1:34:55 Speaker 8: We're 16.

1:34:56 Speaker 19: I'm like, yeah, like, get down here. And that's, you know, the fruit.

1:35:04 Speaker 5: Oh, that's Larry's phone. I don't know if the mics are picking that up or what. I was just trying to figure out where that chime was coming from.

1:35:11 Speaker 19: It was my background music.

1:35:12 Speaker 5: It's my mariachi. There you go. Live radio.

1:35:16 Speaker 30: Yeah.

1:35:17 Speaker 19: So, you know, I think it's really important with that, bringing that orientation of all ages without it being like a, damn, I wish I didn't do all ages party.

1:35:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.

1:35:28 Speaker 19: Because it's about the service and the music, not about the party.

1:35:32 Speaker 5: There's never enough all ages venues. I mean, you know, coming up in the scene here in New Hampshire, you know, for what we had, we had Cafe Eclipse in Concord that came and went.

1:35:43 Speaker 19: Oh gosh.

1:35:43 Speaker 10: I remember.

1:35:44 Speaker 5: You remember Cafe Eclipse?

1:35:44 Speaker 19: I was there a lot.

1:35:46 Speaker 33: Were you?

1:35:46 Speaker 29: Yeah.

1:35:47 Speaker 5: We probably met there at some point.

1:35:48 Speaker 19: I did a lot with spider bite radio. JT was my best friend.

1:35:52 Speaker 11: So.

1:35:53 Speaker 19: I was in that whole, I'd love to see that whole scene come back and like really do its thing.

1:35:58 Speaker 11: You know.

1:35:58 Speaker 5: There's, I just, it's funny you mentioned Spider-Byte Radio because there's a trailer that I always see. It's sitting in somebody's driveway on Eddy Road here in Manchester. And it's got, it says spiderbyteradio.com on it.

1:36:12 Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah. They're local to here.

1:36:14 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:36:15 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah.

1:36:17 Speaker 19: Big shout out. Big shout out to my JT.

1:36:21 Speaker 5: I fell asleep on his couch once at a party that I was at that I probably shouldn't have been at.

1:36:25 Speaker 19: I was probably there.

1:36:26 Speaker 5: You were probably there.

1:36:27 Speaker 19: I basically lived there.

1:36:28 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. We've met before we met.

1:36:31 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:36:31 Speaker 5: Definitely. But I know it seems like a lifetime ago in some ways.

1:36:34 Speaker 19: Yeah.

1:36:36 Speaker 5: But how long? So BPS has existed for how long now?

1:36:42 Speaker 19: So technically and legally and all that crap.

1:36:45 Speaker 5: Stuff, 2014.

1:36:46 Speaker 19: Oh, okay.

1:36:48 Speaker 5: Longer than I thought.

1:36:48 Speaker 8: Wow.

1:36:49 Speaker 19: But it was like I was told that someone's going to steal it if I keep telling people about it, so I registered it.

1:36:54 Speaker 12: Okay.

1:36:55 Speaker 19: And then I took my time to really build it. It's so much more than I could ever explain that, for example, I took my business plan. I didn't realize that I do whatever the hell I want. Like if anybody knows me, especially in this state, I do whatever the hell I want. And, uh, you know, my older age, I've learned it slows me down a bit, but back then it didn't. Um, so when I was told, Oh, you got to go to planning and zoning and like get permission. I was like permission. So I brought my business plan and I just remember them all looking at me.

1:37:23 Speaker 19: They all read it. And it was just like, what? They're like, did you bring this to the chamber of commerce? And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, they're not helping you.

1:37:30 Speaker 12: Are they?

1:37:31 Speaker 11: I go, no. Why?

1:37:31 Speaker 19: He goes, cause you rewrote the chamber of commerce for music. And I was like, I'm not sure what that means, but I'll look that up.

1:37:38 Speaker 21: Right.

1:37:38 Speaker 19: And it was great. And it's really what I wanted to do. I wanted to create the real commonality of how we can all be successful together. So, you know, maybe next time I come on, we'll talk about a different department.

1:37:50 Speaker 21: Yeah.

1:37:51 Speaker 19: Really get into it. But, yeah, so I little by little was doing these little pieces to generate money because I'm a firm believer in we're starving artists for a reason. I'm not going to be able to go get a loan. If I can go get a loan, I'd be somewhere else today. You know what I mean? But also, I don't want to start in debt either, right?

1:38:09 Speaker 8: Right, right.

1:38:11 Speaker 19: And not everybody has the ability to do that, especially within the industry. So, you know, being true to what I'm bragging about is really important. So I've just been opening my departments to make my money from the outside world and then eventually kind of created this atmosphere to be able to do it and really took ground. I think, 2016 or 17. Okay. But it was like, it was, I don't know what I can say on the air, but I'm going to say it. It was ass backwards.

1:38:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can say that.

1:38:40 Speaker 19: Okay. I think all the words I can't say are tattooed on my ribs, actually.

1:38:45 Speaker 8: Gotcha.

1:38:45 Speaker 19: But that's for another day. so it came backwards so my final step was opening like my whiskey a go-go i think we talked about.

1:38:54 Speaker 5: Before that's the spotlight lounge yeah well.

1:38:56 Speaker 19: That came first and i was like well you know god has other plans so we just started promoting people and putting them on the stage and when you bring in these local artists that are are like you know what you're you're gonna pay me what thank you you know it's such a great feeling because I sometimes went without paying for my food and alcohol sometimes just to make sure. But you can't expect them to not be paid. I'm going to say this live right now. Your musicians don't just show up and they're not little monkeys with cymbals.

1:39:32 Speaker 19: You can't wind them up. Blood, sweat, and never tears are working to get to that presentation.

1:39:39 Speaker 8: Exactly.

1:39:39 Speaker 19: And just to get there costs them probably more than they're going to take home after they support your venue and eat and drink there.

1:39:46 Speaker 5: Especially right now. Oh, yeah.

1:39:49 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

1:39:51 Speaker 19: I used to be like, well, it's one or the other. You know, when I was booking for other places I worked at, you either get drinks and food or you get paid, and I hated it. So I made sure I didn't do that. And if you come to me and you're performing at my place and you're, I have a budget, you know, like, and I fluctuate it. Don't get, don't, don't take my numbers right now and be like, Oh, we can't go there. But like, I like to say, look, you know, I have $ 300. This is my budget. What can I do to make it worth it for you?

1:40:17 Speaker 19: Not what can you do for me for $ 300, you know? So if you come to me and you say, well, I have an eight piece band and I can do this and I can do that.

1:40:25 Speaker 10: Okay.

1:40:25 Speaker 19: So everybody can eat for free. Everybody can, whatever. Hey, maybe I'll pull it on another 300. Like you, it's Robin Peter to pay Paul, but that's the fruit of the labor.

1:40:34 Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

1:40:35 Speaker 19: And you make it, you make up for it.

1:40:36 Speaker 9: Right.

1:40:37 Speaker 19: You know, I'm not going to lose my house if I have to sell more fruit today.

1:40:40 Speaker 5: Right.

1:40:41 Speaker 8: Right.

1:40:41 Speaker 19: Just got to work harder, you know?

1:40:43 Speaker 5: Exactly.

1:40:44 Speaker 8: Exactly.

1:40:45 Speaker 19: So, uh, yeah. So it really took off with that. And then we had tragedy in my family. Um, and we had to bury somebody that we had to take some serious time off. So it was a good two years.

1:40:56 Speaker 5: Before I was like oh wow I.

1:40:58 Speaker 19: Could still redo it and I did and I keep redoing it just a little better every time yeah yeah you know nothing changes I am the person I say that I am so if I have a cardboard box and a microphone I'll be.

1:41:10 Speaker 5: A busker yeah if I have to but it's.

1:41:12 Speaker 19: Still going to be bps because we're true to ourselves so.

1:41:15 Speaker 5: Has anything really, um, surprised you over the years with it? Like, is, is there been anything where you've kind of gone, wow, I didn't, I didn't think it was going to be this way, or I didn't think that this would, this particular thing would be a challenge. I mean, this usually, usually with any, usually with anyone in the industry or with anyone who's an entrepreneur or both, there's usually a few things that come up, right. That you're not expecting.

1:41:36 Speaker 19: I think the big one, the big one for me, because I do expect the worst always. Um, and that's how I dodge it from affecting me, but, um, And it's something that I guess it's good that I keep forgetting because I would be inhuman and I would have no spirituality if I didn't. I keep getting shocked by the fact that I'm giving so much and I'm still taking advantage of so much.

1:42:02 Speaker 10: Tell me about it.

1:42:03 Speaker 19: You know what I'm saying? And I think what we have to do is get to the point, and maybe I'm kind of there, where It doesn't matter if you take advantage of me. I'm not going to be hurt over it. It sucks for you. It sucks for me. And like I said before, I'll fire the whole crew. And I have again recently.

1:42:23 Speaker 8: Really?

1:42:24 Speaker 19: That's why we pass around the hats because if you're taking from me, you're taking from all the other musicians I promised a platform to.

1:42:32 Speaker 14: Right.

1:42:33 Speaker 19: And it's not worth it for me to help enable you. I can't be the great enabler, you know.

1:42:39 Speaker 8: Right.

1:42:40 Speaker 19: I'm too many other things.

1:42:41 Speaker 5: Right, right.

1:42:42 Speaker 19: But, you know, it hurts.

1:42:44 Speaker 6: It sucks.

1:42:44 Speaker 19: Because for me, I think it dampers the fact that I believe in the effect of what I'm doing. And I don't want to forget the people that are shining and taking advantage of it in a positive way. Because I want that. I want people to come to me and say, hey, I can't do this. Can you do it for me? And be vulnerable and not feel ashamed that they needed help for.

1:43:06 Speaker 12: Yeah.

1:43:06 Speaker 19: Because it's freaking hard.

1:43:09 Speaker 12: You know what I mean?

1:43:09 Speaker 19: It's hard, especially you tell me one musician that is super confident and doesn't in their bedroom cry about how shit their performance was. Oh, I can't say that.

1:43:20 Speaker 5: We're on a delay.

1:43:21 Speaker 8: I got it.

1:43:21 Speaker 5: But yeah.

1:43:23 Speaker 2: Okay.

1:43:24 Speaker 19: So, but you know what I'm saying? Like there's that meme about the musician that had a great night and you're like, God, he did so good. And then they turn around and vomit.

1:43:30 Speaker 8: Right.

1:43:31 Speaker 19: None of us are that confident in our music. It doesn't matter what we portray and we give and how good we are at it.

1:43:38 Speaker 11: Right.

1:43:38 Speaker 19: You know, we're all going to be insecure because of judgment and rejection.

1:43:42 Speaker 5: I think creative people tend to be the most self-critical.

1:43:45 Speaker 19: Yes, 100%. Yeah. But I'm here to tell you all you rock even if you think you suck.

1:43:51 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:43:51 Speaker 8: Oh, thank you. Thank you.

1:43:53 Speaker 19: I'll bring you flowers. They just won't be real. It'll be words.

1:43:57 Speaker 5: But on, on that note, like, do you ever have to kind of turn anybody away? I feel like we might've talked about this last time you were on too. Like where you have to say you're not ready for what it is that you're trying to do.

1:44:08 Speaker 19: So crazy that you just brought that up because the gentleman we spoke about, I said, I never kick anybody out. I kicked him out of the middle of the performance and he was leaving anyways.

1:44:17 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:44:18 Speaker 19: Oh, I've never done that. Well, now he's found his way to like, reality tv in california but it's like with like the worst stars that you could possibly pick and.

1:44:30 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna leave it at that you've probably heard of.

1:44:32 Speaker 19: Yeah i'm like you know what i did the right thing you know well i don't want to blast him like that kind of goes against you know whatever but he's where he belongs.

1:44:42 Speaker 5: Okay right like we'll leave it at.

1:44:44 Speaker 19: That if this is who you wanted to be.

1:44:47 Speaker 8: We'll tell you off the air.

1:44:48 Speaker 19: My place was not for.

1:44:49 Speaker 12: Yeah, we'll tell you off the air.

1:44:51 Speaker 11: Okay.

1:44:51 Speaker 19: Yeah, we can do that.

1:44:52 Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll do that.

1:44:53 Speaker 19: My place was not for. And what I'm presenting to people, like I said, I got that list. If you're not ready to market yourself effectively, what in the heck can I do for you?

1:45:01 Speaker 5: Right.

1:45:02 Speaker 19: You know, and if you're coming out here acting like you are. you know, Maynard and you are Tom and Jerry right now.

1:45:09 Speaker 12: Like it's a pretty great story.

1:45:11 Speaker 10: Yeah.

1:45:12 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:45:12 Speaker 5: We'll tell you all about it.

1:45:14 Speaker 19: However, recently, um, that has happened as well. So, and it goes right down to my staff, you know, I, you know, I give everybody chances and they want, they want so bad, but there was somebody else. He was a young kid and we might've talked about him to the rapper kid.

1:45:29 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:45:29 Speaker 19: This kid had it. And I don't, I don't, I don't do a lot in that genre because, the industry is crap. You know, you can't really pull out the true rappers and R and B artists that kind of stay true to the path. And I think they have a lot of, and I'm going to go out on a limb and speak for people, but they go, I think they show that it's more like it's unattainable for them to get this big celebrity style. And we're always talking about what that means to each individual. That's what it is. I think they, live on the fantasy of what it's supposed to be unfortunately but i'll do some shows and i'll do so this young kid was jaw-dropping amazing yeah but then he opened his mouth personally about what he felt that he deserved oh no and i was like and even use the term i'm gonna be like you're justin bieber while he was trying to sign papers and i'm like not gonna happen i'll take that paper right now because you're not just gonna.

1:46:30 Speaker 5: And he was serious like yeah he.

1:46:31 Speaker 19: Said seriously And I had to tell him, you're not that great. But what I mean by that is I told him by saying, okay, how about this? I always did my meetings at our jam because it's on the spot, on the fly. If you can't feel the music and figure it out, all that stuff you talk about that you're showing me is fake to me because I don't care if you freestyle your own lyrics. Do it different than what's on your record. Show me that you have what you're telling me you have. And he really couldn't do it.

1:47:00 Speaker 19: It's something you can learn and that's what we do. So I didn't do it to kind of like prove him wrong. I did it to see where his skill level was.

1:47:08 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:47:08 Speaker 19: And he just wasn't willing to accept that. He was, you know, like a kid making every excuse in the book. And I became his mom in one night. And I got enough kids at home.

1:47:16 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:47:17 Speaker 19: You know. So that was a shame. And I think it was more of a shame because he hasn't done anything with his career since then.

1:47:23 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:47:24 Speaker 19: And that's a big fear, like being honest with musicians. Because you don't want to be the reason... That they don't go anymore. I don't want to be in modeling. It was like that when I was a kid, you know?

1:47:34 Speaker 8: Right, right.

1:47:35 Speaker 19: You told me I was ugly because you didn't pick me. So you're the reason that I'm a bum. You know, I don't want to do that to people.

1:47:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.

1:47:42 Speaker 19: So it's a very fine line. But yes, we will tell people it's not for us or, you know, whatever. I can push people in different directions. But there's been some flat out, you're out of your mind. You need to leave my building now.

1:47:54 Speaker 8: Really?

1:47:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1:47:55 Speaker 19: You really just sang that or did that? You know, whatever, as an example.

1:47:59 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:48:00 Speaker 19: You know, but we do try to help before we say no. It takes a lot to really say no.

1:48:05 Speaker 8: Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

1:48:07 Speaker 5: I would imagine too. I mean, the ratio is probably pretty good. Like you probably, because I mean, in my own experience, I've met very few people like that who, who really like most, most musicians I've met, you know, are pretty, even really successful ones. They tend to be pretty humble.

1:48:21 Speaker 8: Yes.

1:48:21 Speaker 5: Good, good people.

1:48:22 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:48:23 Speaker 5: I haven't, I haven't met very many outsized. I mean, we've all got stories, but I haven't met very many like outsized egos.

1:48:29 Speaker 21: Yeah.

1:48:30 Speaker 5: At least so far. Then again, I mean, being a radio guy, you know, musicians kind of, they, they do treat us a little better probably than some other people just because they kind of need us, to play their music on the radio. So they might be, I do. And I, and I have, now that I'm thinking about it, I've definitely had conversations with people where I kind of felt like, yeah, I, I think they're being a little extra nice to me, you know, cause they want me to play their song, you know? And it's like, um, but, but for the most, but even, you know, like I used to do a lot as a promoter, like, like, um, Like what you do, Larry.

1:49:05 Speaker 5: I used to do a lot of that, and I kind of got burnt out on it.

1:49:08 Speaker 10: Yeah.

1:49:10 Speaker 5: But even with that, I didn't run into too many. I mean, do you run into that much?

1:49:15 Speaker 8: I do. Do you?

1:49:16 Speaker 20: Yeah, you run into all kinds of– everybody's got different– personalities everybody's got different thoughts everybody's got haters i mean it's like if we all just got together and worked on each other together right we could we could bring this all back together right and get people out where they think they're gonna have to think they are gonna get out for a good time a safe time be able to express themselves and not um not worry about what other people think right right that's the beautiful people society that's the moment.

1:49:44 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah absolutely If you're just joining us, of course, we've got the great people from BPS Records here with us. And Larry from Loud Entertainment is with us as well. And I'm looking at you as the time goes so fast. But we're going to have a great time tonight. We're talking about Swarmy Fest, of course. Doors at 7, music starts at 7.30 at Jewel Music Venue, 61 Canal Street. It's actually right across the street from where the radio station is here. Very convenient. $ 20 at the door. Is that still correct, Larry?

1:50:16 Speaker 8: I believe so.

1:50:16 Speaker 5: $ 20 at the door.

1:50:17 Speaker 10: I think it was $ 12 pre-sale, $ 20 at the door maybe?

1:50:20 Speaker 5: That's what this says, $ 12 advance, $ 20 at the door. And I think the advance, but the advance tickets are gone, right?

1:50:24 Speaker 19: They just sold their last one today.

1:50:27 Speaker 5: Excellent, excellent.

1:50:29 Speaker 20: And anybody who bought those tickets pre-sale also got an entry to win the guitar, signed guitar.

1:50:35 Speaker 5: Yes, very cool, very cool. The lineup tonight includes, let's see, the Gray Curtain, Grim the Acronym, Elder P. Sloan, Singe, 3FD, and the one that I can't pronounce, P.H. Larry, I heard you do it earlier.

1:50:48 Speaker 10: No, you didn't.

1:50:49 Speaker 12: No?

1:50:50 Speaker 5: Didn't you take a stab at it?

1:50:52 Speaker 10: I think Bruce did that.

1:50:54 Speaker 3: Oh, Bruce?

1:50:54 Speaker 10: Yeah.

1:50:55 Speaker 5: Because I can't roll my R's. How do you say this, P.H.? Can either of you do it?

1:50:58 Speaker 19: Yeah, I can't.

1:51:00 Speaker 5: Where is it?

1:51:01 Speaker 19: You have it.

1:51:02 Speaker 5: It's spelled T-E-I-X-E-R-A.

1:51:05 Speaker 10: Teixeira? Teixeira.

1:51:07 Speaker 5: Teixeira? That's Teixeira. Teixeira? Oh, that's not so bad.

1:51:11 Speaker 8: Yeah.

1:51:11 Speaker 5: All right.

1:51:11 Speaker 19: I work in the MMA world, so I know a few Teixeiras.

1:51:15 Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

1:51:15 Speaker 4: That makes sense.

1:51:16 Speaker 5: That makes sense. Because I can't roll my R's, so I can't say it like how you're really supposed to say it. But I'll go with your way.

1:51:22 Speaker 8: Teixeira.

1:51:23 Speaker 19: If it's Brazilian, it's Teixeira.

1:51:25 Speaker 8: Oh, okay. All right.

1:51:26 Speaker 5: Excellent. Excellent. And, of course, Sepsis is headlining. The Blood Witch and Reminisce will be there. Jenny will have her, what do you call it again?

1:51:35 Speaker 6: It's an artistic piece.

1:51:37 Speaker 19: It's a cape.

1:51:37 Speaker 5: It's an artistic piece. I thought I heard you use a different term for it though.

1:51:42 Speaker 6: Fashion art.

1:51:43 Speaker 5: Maybe, maybe, maybe not.

1:51:44 Speaker 8: Maybe not.

1:51:45 Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

1:51:46 Speaker 5: But that will be there on display.

1:51:48 Speaker 8: Of course.

1:51:48 Speaker 6: It's too early to make me think this way.

1:51:50 Speaker 19: At the unveiling, we'll name it.

1:51:53 Speaker 5: And the fine sponsors tonight, of course, BPS Records, Loud Entertainment, and let's see, oh, Legion of Solace, of course. We had Malcolm and Bruce on in the first hour. And of course, Matt Connerton Unleashed, as always, very proud to be one of the sponsors as well.

1:52:07 Speaker 8: Thank you for having us, man.

1:52:08 Speaker 5: Absolutely. Absolutely.

1:52:10 Speaker 20: And from sitting in on both interviews and sitting here talking with you, it's like, everybody's on the same page. So, you know, other people have to slow down and take a look and see if you want to be on the bus, let's, let's do it, you know?

1:52:23 Speaker 11: Yeah.

1:52:25 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

1:52:25 Speaker 19: Next year, I'll have the tour bus. It's an honor, man.

1:52:29 Speaker 10: I just took a bus out.

1:52:30 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, buddy. Go ahead.

1:52:31 Speaker 9: No, no, no.

1:52:31 Speaker 12: I was saying thank you for your time.

1:52:32 Speaker 8: It's an honor.

1:52:33 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely. Thank you for being here. No, it's great to see you. Look forward to seeing you tonight. And I think what we're going to do, so we do have to show some love to our amazing sponsors. So we got to wrap up this hour. And I believe we have some fine folks from Cephasis coming in. in the third hour if you are listening live on a Saturday. But I think going into the break, we should play another song from Singe because I really like this. This is called Settling Scores. And, hey, I'll see you all tonight.

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2:07:49 Speaker 5: So welcome to our friends Xtrili. And let's get these mics up because we also have our friends in the band Sepsis here with us. because it is time once again for SwarmyFest. a little early this year it's in september it feels feels weird we just want to wear shorts yeah yeah oh i get it i get it so uh welcome everybody uh will let's start with you everybody will go around because as um we'll make sure we get everybody and i want to make sure everyone has a.

2:08:17 Speaker 12: I'm William, older middle-aged guy and guitar player in the band.

2:08:23 Speaker 5: All right.

2:08:23 Speaker 8: And you?

2:08:25 Speaker 5: Oh, hang on, Sam. I'm having trouble hearing you because you're on the weird mic. Oh, here we go. Okay.

2:08:32 Speaker 4: The weird mic is working now.

2:08:33 Speaker 5: The weird mic is working now.

2:08:34 Speaker 4: I am Sam Bryce.

2:08:35 Speaker 33: I just joined on bass with Sepsis.

2:08:38 Speaker 5: Oh, congratulations.

2:08:39 Speaker 12: Thank you.

2:08:40 Speaker 4: Thank you.

2:08:40 Speaker 12: Nobody knows that until tonight, though.

2:08:42 Speaker 8: Oh, really?

2:08:43 Speaker 5: Well, now everyone knows. So you spoiled the announcement. Nice going, Sam. You spoiled the big surprise.

2:08:50 Speaker 33: I'm already messing things up on my first day on the job.

2:08:54 Speaker 5: What is it with bass players? I'll tell you. I'm just kidding. I'm a bass player, so I'm excited to meet you. All right, and we'll continue to go around the room.

2:09:03 Speaker 4: All right.

2:09:04 Speaker 12: Drummer from Sepsis, Salvatore Pan here.

2:09:08 Speaker 5: I like how you said you're the drummer from Sepsis first. You put the band before your name. That's good. That shows dedication and commitment. Well, you have been with the band for a long time.

2:09:20 Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, yeah.

2:09:20 Speaker 4: I'm definitely like a sepsis drumming machine.

2:09:23 Speaker 2: Absolutely.

2:09:25 Speaker 5: Absolutely.

2:09:26 Speaker 19: Melissa?

2:09:27 Speaker 34: Hi, my name is Melissa Wolfe, and I am the vocalist for Sepsis.

2:09:31 Speaker 5: Welcome back. And, of course, Lexi. Hi, I'm Lexi.

2:09:34 Speaker 32: I'm the keyboard player and screamer for Sepsis.

2:09:38 Speaker 5: And you've worked your way up in the band.

2:09:39 Speaker 32: Yeah, I started off as a merch girl.

2:09:41 Speaker 5: That's right.

2:09:42 Speaker 32: And then through a couple years of being a merch girl, I was volunteering to become the keyboard player.

2:09:49 Speaker 5: Now, how long has it been now that you've been officially on stage with the band?

2:09:53 Speaker 32: Swarmy Fest marks it officially one year as a keyboard player.

2:09:57 Speaker 5: Oh, it's only been a year.

2:09:58 Speaker 8: Okay. Yes. Okay.

2:10:00 Speaker 5: All right.

2:10:00 Speaker 8: Well, very good.

2:10:01 Speaker 12: Very good.

2:10:02 Speaker 5: And of course, tonight is Swarmy Fest. Doors open at 7, correct?

2:10:05 Speaker 2: Yes.

2:10:06 Speaker 14: Yes.

2:10:06 Speaker 5: Will, tell me if anything I'm saying here is incorrect. Music starts at 7.30?

2:10:10 Speaker 12: I'm following along. This is good, yeah.

2:10:12 Speaker 5: Okay, good. And advance tickets are sold out, right? But people can still get tickets at the door.

2:10:17 Speaker 6: Is that correct?

2:10:18 Speaker 12: That's true.

2:10:18 Speaker 35: This is our, strangely enough, this is our best year that we've had for pre-sale tickets.

2:10:26 Speaker 5: Congratulations.

2:10:27 Speaker 8: Oh, yes.

2:10:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.

2:10:28 Speaker 12: Absolutely.

2:10:30 Speaker 5: Very, very cool. Let's see. And the lineup, of course, Sepsis Headlining. And let's see. We've got the Gray Curtain, Grim the Acronym, Singe 3FD, and the one that I have trouble saying, PH... How do you say it?

2:10:42 Speaker 8: Tex.

2:10:44 Speaker 5: Texera?

2:10:44 Speaker 8: 3F.

2:10:46 Speaker 35: No, 3FD, Gray Curtain, Cherry Fog, Grim the Acronym, and Singe.

2:10:55 Speaker 5: Oh, there's no PH Texera or whatever? Were they ever on the show? Maybe what I'm looking at is wrong.

2:11:02 Speaker 12: No, maybe it could be a typo.

2:11:04 Speaker 8: Could be, okay.

2:11:04 Speaker 12: Internet typo.

2:11:05 Speaker 5: All right, well, never mind then.

2:11:06 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:11:07 Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you're here.

2:11:08 Speaker 35: I mean, I don't know who they are. Maybe somebody could tag them. We would book them. If they're good, you know, we'll book them.

2:11:17 Speaker 5: It might be the universe telling you to book them. I was going to say, yeah. For next year's Swarmy Fest. And, of course, for our official sponsors, while this show, of course, Matt Condrich and Unleashed, we're always very proud to be involved. Also, of course, BPS Records, Loud Entertainment, and Legion of Solace. Those guys were here with us in the first hour. And you've got, of course, The Blood Witch and Reminisce.

2:11:40 Speaker 10: Is that correct?

2:11:41 Speaker 35: Yes. Reminisce, I don't think we'll be making it tonight.

2:11:44 Speaker 8: Oh, okay.

2:11:46 Speaker 35: For, you know, like professional reasons. I did want to say though, we have another sponsor that I'd like to give a shout out to.

2:11:53 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:11:53 Speaker 12: And that's Shred Guy Records.

2:11:56 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:11:59 Speaker 35: If it wasn't for Shred Guy Records, we wouldn't really be able to have the coolest after party in the world. So I do want to give a shout out to Shred Guy Records because behind the scenes, they've been really kicking butt.

2:12:10 Speaker 5: Okay.

2:12:11 Speaker 34: Super awesome of them for pitching in.

2:12:13 Speaker 12: Oh, very cool.

2:12:14 Speaker 5: Very cool. Yeah, tell us more about that. I'm not aware of Shred Guy Records.

2:12:18 Speaker 35: Well, so, and the reason why that is is because it's an Ohio Midwest collective.

2:12:25 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:12:25 Speaker 35: And just from traveling, we've collected so many friends in the Midwest. So we've started to collect sponsors in other parts of the country.

2:12:36 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:12:37 Speaker 35: And Shred Guy Records is an indie record label there.

2:12:41 Speaker 10: Okay.

2:12:41 Speaker 35: That took interest in the band. You know, we're an independent band. If we don't have a record label, we're not interested in getting signed. But a lot of times, much like the past, record labels have sponsored Sepsis in the past, even though we haven't been signed to them.

2:12:55 Speaker 8: Right. Yeah.

2:12:57 Speaker 12: It's not a first.

2:12:58 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:12:58 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:12:59 Speaker 8: I don't know why that is.

2:13:01 Speaker 35: One of the only independent bands that I can think of and recall that record labels still sponsor us or get behind us.

2:13:11 Speaker 5: Why do you think that is?

2:13:15 Speaker 35: I think that probably because of our advertising and marketing ability to get the word out.

2:13:19 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.

2:13:21 Speaker 5: No, that makes sense. And we should talk about, too, for the uninitiated, I mean, this is the fifth Swarmy Fest, but why is it called Swarmy Fest?

2:13:30 Speaker 8: Well.

2:13:30 Speaker 5: Because you could have called it Sepsis Fest.

2:13:33 Speaker 12: It could be William Fest. It could be William Fest. And the reason why it's not, the reason why it's not is because.

2:13:43 Speaker 8: It is.

2:13:44 Speaker 35: A show that is not created by sepsis or me. This event is created by the neighborhood. It's created by some of my best friends. Of course, the sponsors.

2:13:57 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:13:59 Speaker 35: Matt, you're a part of that recipe. Some of the guys with me here are from my video game community.

2:14:06 Speaker 10: Okay.

2:14:07 Speaker 12: They're also a big part of this recipe.

2:14:11 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:14:11 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:14:12 Speaker 12: New bands every year is a part of the recipe.

2:14:15 Speaker 2: Right.

2:14:17 Speaker 35: And all the features and characteristics that come with the pre-party and the after-party, along with your radio station, the physical venue, and, of course, our hotel after-party that we have all in the same block.

2:14:36 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:14:37 Speaker 35: So it's a combination of keeping people together... everybody in the building being familiar with each other and all of us being familiar to the point of having the ability to make adjustments as we go along and make each year better.

2:14:52 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:14:53 Speaker 10: Yeah.

2:14:54 Speaker 35: So the reason why it's called Swarmy Fest is because it's really a swarm of different collectives and different friends and, and family. And, and the one thing that everyone has in common is that they're friends with the band.

2:15:07 Speaker 5: Well, we should point out too, cause that's what you call the fan base, right? The swarm of, Of course. You know, like Kiss has the Kiss Army. You've got The Swarm.

2:15:15 Speaker 8: We wrote a.

2:15:15 Speaker 35: Song called The Swarm. And during the pandemic, we had the lockdowns. And that's when our lives and our online presence really started to grow.

2:15:25 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:15:26 Speaker 35: And when we dropped our first record in 2020, the fans started calling themselves The Swarmies.

2:15:32 Speaker 5: Oh, see, I didn't realize that.

2:15:33 Speaker 8: That's cool, though.

2:15:35 Speaker 12: It was more like an online thing.

2:15:36 Speaker 5: That's really cool. See, I didn't realize that. That's really cool that it happened organically like that, though. I had no idea.

2:15:41 Speaker 35: Melissa had a very popular Twitch, and they all used to fantasize about, you know, someday when we all get out of prison, we're going to have a big festival.

2:15:50 Speaker 12: And Melissa said, well, what.

2:15:51 Speaker 5: Would we call it?

2:15:53 Speaker 35: You know, we said, what would we call it? You guys have to name it. So it was their idea.

2:15:58 Speaker 34: It all kind of first formed with the gaming community, too, because ICG was the name of the gaming community. And we put that as a Facebook group on Facebook.

2:16:10 Speaker 10: Yeah.

2:16:10 Speaker 34: And it kind of grew from there because the fans of the band started to join that group. And then they all just kind of like started combining together and it became The Swarm.

2:16:21 Speaker 35: That's such a good point. That's such good sepsis lore. There's probably about 16,000 people in our Facebook group, The Swarm.

2:16:33 Speaker 12: It's called Sepsis The Swarm.

2:16:35 Speaker 35: And originally, it was an Immaculate Connection gaming group.

2:16:44 Speaker 12: On Facebook.

2:16:45 Speaker 6: Originally.

2:16:46 Speaker 12: And fans of the band kept joining it.

2:16:48 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:16:49 Speaker 35: And fans of the music kept joining it. And then the video game community and the fans of the bands

2:16:57 Speaker 35: all joined together.

2:16:58 Speaker 34: They really kind of named themselves, too.

2:17:01 Speaker 5: No, that's really cool. Yeah. So the gaming community has been really, I know we've talked about this before, but it's been pretty integral in terms of The development of the band.

2:17:13 Speaker 12: I'm going to tell you why. We truly are... And we embrace it.

2:17:20 Speaker 35: We truly are a technology or social media band.

2:17:25 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:17:25 Speaker 12: Texas is a computer band.

2:17:27 Speaker 35: We're a Facebook and Instagram band. It's where we got our start. We didn't get our start in heavy metal or rock and roll. Nobody really wanted us to play in venues or anything like that. The first place we ever played was online. So when it comes to us organizing... you know, we organize on Discord. We make friends on social media. So because of us being a social media band and because of us being on video games, it's one of the last few frontiers that people advertise where every store, every flat surface has a billboard or an advertisement.

2:18:02 Speaker 35: Until recently, mobile gaming and gaming was one of those untouched places. And being with the gaming community And being on Xbox Live and Discord, it taught us how to hang out. It taught us how to meet up and be communal in these groups. And being gamers gave us an edge when it came to social media and how to market with the band.

2:18:26 Speaker 8: Okay, okay.

2:18:28 Speaker 34: And even a lot of our influences come from video games, like Halo, for example. You might hear some little video game noises.

2:18:37 Speaker 5: In our music. Okay, okay. Interesting. Yeah, because I was curious if that influences... I mean, does it consciously influence.

2:18:47 Speaker 12: How you make music? All the time.

2:18:49 Speaker 35: And I mean directly related to certain weapons in the game.

2:18:55 Speaker 35: Have you ever heard the sepsis song called Falling Unloved?

2:18:59 Speaker 4: I feel like.

2:19:00 Speaker 5: I must have. But I can't place it off the top of my head.

2:19:03 Speaker 8: It's okay.

2:19:05 Speaker 11: But.

2:19:07 Speaker 35: There are certain parts in the song. So there's a popular gun in Halo called the battle rifle.

2:19:12 Speaker 10: Okay.

2:19:13 Speaker 12: And it kind of makes this kind of rhythm to it.

2:19:18 Speaker 5: He does that really well, bud.

2:19:21 Speaker 35: And in order to stick somebody really good with it, you kind of have to know the cadence and the rhythm of the weapon.

2:19:28 Speaker 10: Okay.

2:19:29 Speaker 12: And we timed it and measured it.

2:19:31 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:19:31 Speaker 35: And the entire song is themed off of the cadence of In the rhythm sequence.

2:19:38 Speaker 12: Of the battle rifle.

2:19:39 Speaker 5: Oh, okay. And then you have to play that? You'll never un-hear it again.

2:19:43 Speaker 35: So next time you listen to the song, Falling Unloved, when you hear the breakdown parts, it's literally the battle rifle.

2:19:50 Speaker 5: Oh, okay.

2:19:50 Speaker 27: Yeah.

2:19:51 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:19:51 Speaker 35: So, you know, we do like shield power-ups and like a lot of the alien weapons.

2:19:56 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:19:57 Speaker 35: And it does absolutely translate on the stage because if you look at our.

2:20:04 Speaker 12: set up on stage we.

2:20:05 Speaker 35: Don't have traditional cabs or heavy metal speakers we all play on little nintendos on the floor and they make video game noises and yeah not your.

2:20:16 Speaker 34: Traditional sepsis lore for you.

2:20:19 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah see a lot of this wouldn't so i'm not a gamer because so a lot of this wouldn't have even occurred to me if you hadn't explained it but.

2:20:26 Speaker 35: The internet is a game yeah no i know what you mean you know so it is gaming it's all of it's all.

2:20:31 Speaker 5: That yeah Maybe that's why I find it all so addictive. Because the reason I'm not a gamer is because I find it too psychologically addictive for me.

2:20:39 Speaker 4: It is.

2:20:40 Speaker 5: Because the last time I played a video game was one of those wrestling games like Raw versus SmackDown games. And I remember, because I played a lot of video games when I was a kid. But even as an adult, I remember playing one at a friend's house and, you know, and it was like, we started at like 10 o'clock at night. Next thing you know, it's two in the morning. My friend is asleep on the couch and I had to be up early. And I'm like, I'm doing that thing, you know, that an addict does, you know, just one more game, just one more game.

2:21:03 Speaker 12: Oh, I've been there.

2:21:04 Speaker 5: And that was the night I put down that game controller and I said, never again. I'm never doing this again because it's just, it's too addictive for me. So that's why I avoid all of that.

2:21:13 Speaker 12: It can be like that sometimes. No, it takes a certain brain type.

2:21:16 Speaker 8: You know.

2:21:17 Speaker 12: Yeah.

2:21:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm vulnerable to that. So a lot of this I didn't know, and I would have been oblivious to it. But it's interesting. So what about in terms of how you record and from a production standpoint? See, this is something we've never talked about this part. This is interesting to me. From a production standpoint, does the gaming aspect of where the band comes from?

2:21:43 Speaker 19: 100%.

2:21:44 Speaker 5: Does it?

2:21:45 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:21:46 Speaker 12: All the way.

2:21:47 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:21:48 Speaker 35: How we work the DAW, how we approach and arrange music. It's much more arranged like a soundtrack.

2:21:56 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:21:56 Speaker 12: And less arranged like a metal band.

2:21:58 Speaker 18: Okay.

2:21:58 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:21:59 Speaker 35: You're not going to hear a lot of reoccurring themes or tempos or everything is a new arrangement, a new emotion, a new feeling.

2:22:08 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:22:08 Speaker 12: We try not to.

2:22:10 Speaker 35: Copy or go over too many places we've been before, too, you know?

2:22:14 Speaker 5: Okay, okay. Any surprises tonight in the set list? The last time I saw you, and this was before Sam was in the band, you didn't have a bass player, so you had that part covered, but you all, where was that venue again?

2:22:31 Speaker 19: I can't remember. The Magic Room.

2:22:32 Speaker 5: The Magic Room.

2:22:33 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:22:33 Speaker 12: I was stumped. I was like, I don't know.

2:22:36 Speaker 32: I got you.

2:22:37 Speaker 5: You all played some songs I'd never heard you play before.

2:22:41 Speaker 12: Sometimes we do that.

2:22:42 Speaker 10: It was really cool.

2:22:42 Speaker 12: We can do it.

2:22:43 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:22:43 Speaker 18: Yeah.

2:22:45 Speaker 35: To be real with you, we're a work in progress like any other human being. And we write music that sounds like it might be easy to play until you get a bunch of people together and try to do it.

2:22:59 Speaker 5: Well, I pay attention to what you're doing on guitar. It's not easy.

2:23:01 Speaker 12: You might be right.

2:23:02 Speaker 8: Like alone.

2:23:03 Speaker 6: Thank you for saying that.

2:23:05 Speaker 16: It's true.

2:23:05 Speaker 5: It's true.

2:23:06 Speaker 8: You're alone.

2:23:07 Speaker 4: Yeah.

2:23:07 Speaker 12: It might play off well.

2:23:09 Speaker 35: If you were alone in a room and you wanted to play a sepsis song by yourself, it might work out all right. But as soon as you start adding more people into it, it starts to get tricky.

2:23:20 Speaker 4: Sure, sure.

2:23:23 Speaker 12: And that's why we have to arrange it intelligently.

2:23:27 Speaker 29: Right.

2:23:28 Speaker 5: That makes sense.

2:23:29 Speaker 12: We have a language in the band.

2:23:30 Speaker 8: For sure.

2:23:32 Speaker 5: Any surprises? You never told me, though. Any surprises? I'm not saying reveal what they are. I'm just asking if there are any.

2:23:37 Speaker 32: We're not playing Blacklight.

2:23:38 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.

2:23:39 Speaker 32: We're not playing Blacklight.

2:23:40 Speaker 12: Yeah, we're retiring Blacklight forever.

2:23:43 Speaker 34: That is a very good point.

2:23:44 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:23:44 Speaker 12: Okay. We're never going to play it again.

2:23:46 Speaker 32: The crowd has to, like, beg for it.

2:23:48 Speaker 8: Oh, really?

2:23:48 Speaker 5: We're never going to play Blacklight Invasion.

2:23:51 Speaker 35: It's our biggest song, and we decided we're never going to play it ever again unless people go crazy. I mean, if the police don't come, we're not playing it. And that's not just tonight. We mean any night.

2:24:02 Speaker 5: That's the first Sepsis song I've ever heard, but that's your biggest song?

2:24:06 Speaker 10: Actually, you know what?

2:24:07 Speaker 35: It rivals Swarm. You know, if we want to talk about... I think Black Light's our biggest song.

2:24:13 Speaker 5: Because you've got songs like... Well, Eyes of Empathy, as you know, is my personal favorite. And Force You to Lay Down is Jenny's favorite, which we'll play at the end of the segment. But those are songs that are very melodic, very radio-friendly. I'm surprised those songs aren't bigger, because they deserve to be.

2:24:31 Speaker 12: I feel that way about a lot of New England bands and a lot of independent bands.

2:24:36 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:24:38 Speaker 35: There's a lot of talented people. There's a lot of talented people. And when people say, who's the most underrated, unheard of band? It's like the band in your backyard.

2:24:50 Speaker 5: Right.

2:24:50 Speaker 12: The band that's in your town. Right, right, exactly. Who deserves more credibility? The bands you're ignoring?

2:24:56 Speaker 5: Right.

2:24:57 Speaker 12: Those guys.

2:24:58 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, absolutely.

2:24:59 Speaker 14: Yep.

2:25:00 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

2:25:00 Speaker 35: People think that music's background noise, you know, and that local bands are having too much fun to get paid for it.

2:25:07 Speaker 5: There's a lot of that. And why Jewel? What is it about Jewel?

2:25:14 Speaker 8: Because.

2:25:15 Speaker 12: Great question.

2:25:16 Speaker 5: Obviously, so last year was Jewel. The year before, though, was Taffeta.

2:25:20 Speaker 8: Yes.

2:25:21 Speaker 12: Do you want to know why it was that Taffeta?

2:25:23 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, because you never revealed what happened. So I'm super curious.

2:25:27 Speaker 8: Because.

2:25:29 Speaker 12: Because we couldn't have it at Juul that year.

2:25:32 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:25:33 Speaker 28: But.

2:25:33 Speaker 12: That's the reason why.

2:25:34 Speaker 5: I thought there was, see, I thought there was more of a story, though, because didn't you.

2:25:38 Speaker 8: There is.

2:25:38 Speaker 5: There is.

2:25:39 Speaker 8: Somebody.

2:25:39 Speaker 10: He wants more.

2:25:41 Speaker 8: I'm always.

2:25:42 Speaker 2: Nah.

2:25:42 Speaker 12: I'm always looking for the dirt.

2:25:45 Speaker 5: I'm a journalist. I want the dirt.

2:25:47 Speaker 12: The promoter. The promoter. The promoter ghosted me.

2:25:51 Speaker 11: Oh.

2:25:52 Speaker 8: That's the truth.

2:25:52 Speaker 5: Okay.

2:25:53 Speaker 12: The promoter that was working with. I'm an artist. I'm not an event coordinator.

2:25:57 Speaker 3: Yeah.

2:25:57 Speaker 35: So I like to hire a promoter because I want to be able to work with the band, talk with my friends and my fans and family.

2:26:06 Speaker 8: Yeah, of course.

2:26:06 Speaker 12: You know, so substance isn't event coordinators. We're not music industry talent buyers.

2:26:13 Speaker 8: Right, right.

2:26:14 Speaker 12: You know, we're just a band.

2:26:15 Speaker 5: Right.

2:26:16 Speaker 12: We're just a local band.

2:26:17 Speaker 35: So it's nice to have a promoter to help you organize and deal directly with the supervisors.

2:26:24 Speaker 12: The doormen, and the venue owners.

2:26:27 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:26:28 Speaker 12: You know?

2:26:29 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

2:26:29 Speaker 35: So I could work a little bit more with the talent and the guests. And the promoter that year just hung up the phone and just didn't talk with us anymore.

2:26:37 Speaker 11: Wow.

2:26:37 Speaker 2: Okay.

2:26:38 Speaker 8: That's the truth.

2:26:38 Speaker 35: Yeah, yeah.

2:26:39 Speaker 5: No, I believe it. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of flaky people.

2:26:41 Speaker 8: I don't know.

2:26:41 Speaker 12: I don't know what it was. I don't know what the circumstances were. They just stopped answering the phone.

2:26:44 Speaker 5: Because from what I remember, it was kind of last minute, the change in venue.

2:26:48 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:26:48 Speaker 35: I mean, when we're done with the Swarmy Fest, that week, we book it. Like, if people want to do it again, we book it.

2:26:55 Speaker 8: Yep.

2:26:56 Speaker 12: And that's what it's based on. It's not based on if I want to do it.

2:26:59 Speaker 8: Right.

2:27:00 Speaker 35: It's if we leave the radio station and everybody goes, wow, that's really a lot of fun.

2:27:05 Speaker 12: You know, we want to come back. Then that's something we consider.

2:27:07 Speaker 8: Right.

2:27:08 Speaker 12: If people say we want strippers in a food truck, that's something we consider.

2:27:11 Speaker 11: Right.

2:27:11 Speaker 35: If people want to have water balloon fights and wet t-shirt concerts, you know, that's something.

2:27:16 Speaker 12: We could do, you know?

2:27:17 Speaker 34: And every year they ask us if we can do it again.

2:27:19 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:27:20 Speaker 8: So, yeah.

2:27:21 Speaker 35: If you ask what people want to do, what they want to do again... And we try to hit the target.

2:27:26 Speaker 10: Yeah.

2:27:27 Speaker 35: The reason why we do Jewel is because it's got a cool sound system.

2:27:33 Speaker 5: It does.

2:27:34 Speaker 12: It's moody. It's dark. You know, we're kind of a moody, dark band, so.

2:27:40 Speaker 35: So it kind of fits our sexy environment and the type of music that we're playing.

2:27:44 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:27:46 Speaker 12: There's enough room on stage for six people. We're a larger band. They have a really nice stage.

2:27:52 Speaker 35: And it's the only place, Swarmy Fest is the only place that you can see sepsis play in New Hampshire.

2:27:58 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:28:00 Speaker 35: So if you're from New Hampshire and you want to see us on stage, the only time you can see us play in New Hampshire locally is at Stormy Fest.

2:28:09 Speaker 19: Okay.

2:28:09 Speaker 34: Right in our hometown.

2:28:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. But is that intentional? Like you don't want to play anywhere else in New Hampshire?

2:28:15 Speaker 12: I don't want to.

2:28:15 Speaker 8: No, I don't.

2:28:16 Speaker 2: Why?

2:28:17 Speaker 35: Because there's not a lot of stages that can accommodate technically or professionally what we really do.

2:28:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes sense.

2:28:24 Speaker 12: Like have somebody.

2:28:25 Speaker 35: Walk in, nothing against any of the smaller clubs, but if you have a big band... and I'm playing in a closet, and you walk in. I'm trying to arrange all that. You might say, oh, your band's terrible. You couldn't get that all arranged? You guys should be bigger.

2:28:39 Speaker 5: Right, right.

2:28:40 Speaker 12: You guys should be better than this. You guys should have more going on.

2:28:43 Speaker 35: But the truth is, the stage or the sound guys don't accommodate a band at this size. So if we're standing there looking like we can't move, so we have to have an environment that fits the kind of music and performance.

2:28:57 Speaker 12: That we have stylistically.

2:28:59 Speaker 35: We like to, a lot of bands, they don't have spin kicks and dancing and jumping around. We do a lot of that, throwing the instruments around and doing spins and throwing confetti in the air.

2:29:11 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:29:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, because now that you mention it, I've never seen you on a small stage, really, that I can think of.

2:29:16 Speaker 12: It just doesn't work well. It doesn't sound good. We've got to spread out a little bit more.

2:29:21 Speaker 34: We have played smaller stages. It's just tight up there.

2:29:25 Speaker 12: You've got a trio. It sounds great in a closet.

2:29:28 Speaker 5: Oh, sure.

2:29:31 Speaker 34: But we definitely can't pull off our cool choreography and stuff on a small stage.

2:29:35 Speaker 8: Right.

2:29:36 Speaker 29: Right.

2:29:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, and Juul is great. Like, you know, great sound system, the lighting, everything.

2:29:43 Speaker 35: Oh, one more thing about Juul. The sound travels out really well, okay? It handles subharmonic bass frequencies, and you can have a conversation in the back of the room.

2:29:57 Speaker 8: Yep, that's true.

2:29:58 Speaker 35: Because we're a social band, we also need a place where we can have a conversation and We just played in Brooklyn, and you're not having a conversation in Brooklyn.

2:30:07 Speaker 5: Right.

2:30:09 Speaker 12: You're not setting up a merch table.

2:30:11 Speaker 11: Right.

2:30:11 Speaker 8: It's outside.

2:30:11 Speaker 12: You're not having a conversation. It is meaty in there.

2:30:16 Speaker 29: Yeah.

2:30:16 Speaker 12: And it's what you'd imagine.

2:30:18 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:30:19 Speaker 12: It's packed.

2:30:20 Speaker 5: It's packed. Sardine style.

2:30:22 Speaker 12: And if you don't ask somebody to move, you know, no one's moving.

2:30:25 Speaker 5: They're not moving.

2:30:26 Speaker 8: Right.

2:30:27 Speaker 18: Yeah.

2:30:29 Speaker 5: That's funny.

2:30:29 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:30:31 Speaker 5: So I'm curious, so Sam, you're the new bass player?

2:30:36 Speaker 2: I am, yes.

2:30:36 Speaker 5: So how did this come about?

2:30:38 Speaker 33: This came about because I took an interest in the band. I was aware of Sepsis a few years ago, and it was earlier this year, I just started looking more into them, and I actually am a drummer. I started on guitar, I played various instruments, but I've played, I live in Portland, Maine, and I drum in several bands, but I've always loved playing bass. Actually wanted to be a bass player when i was in grade school and i just wanted to be in bands i just yeah i would tell people i want to play bass and i had a cheap used bass you know along with my guitar back then and i would come up with bass lines with bands i was in and i always loved doing it i just never played bass in a band and i went and saw sepsis earlier this year at a show in norwood mass and i just struck up a conversation and was offhandedly like yeah i'm a drummer i've I love playing bass, but I'm done.

2:31:32 Speaker 33: And they seemed open to the idea, if I were to get a bass and really take it seriously, of pursuing it. And it was about a month later, maybe, that I ended up getting a really nice Jackson bass up in Augusta. And everything just sort of fell into place. The timing of it.

2:31:55 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:31:55 Speaker 33: I mean, I went down and saw them again. And that time I talked to him a little more and was like, okay, I think this might be feasible. Went down to a practice and it just started working out.

2:32:10 Speaker 4: So here I am.

2:32:11 Speaker 8: Excellent. Excellent.

2:32:12 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:32:12 Speaker 33: My first gig was a few weeks ago in New York and we were just, I was like.

2:32:16 Speaker 5: Oh wow.

2:32:17 Speaker 33: This band does need a lot of room on stage, but that was a New York meat grinder club.

2:32:22 Speaker 12: But it's, Yeah.

2:32:26 Speaker 33: I've played those places before where you got the bar in the front and then another room in the back where there's like a curtain dividing it. And then there's a stage and that's all it is. That's all the room is, is the stage.

2:32:35 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.

2:32:36 Speaker 4: And it was packed.

2:32:38 Speaker 8: Was it? Yeah.

2:32:38 Speaker 33: It was the owner's birthday. I found out after the place was back to the gills. So I hit the ground running.

2:32:44 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:32:44 Speaker 4: Yeah.

2:32:45 Speaker 5: Were you nervous?

2:32:46 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.

2:32:47 Speaker 33: But I always get nerves even as a drummer, but this was extra just because different spot on stage.

2:32:53 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:32:54 Speaker 33: Um, Haven't played a stringed instrument on stage in a couple decades, and first time playing bass, but it felt comfortable pretty quick.

2:33:01 Speaker 8: Okay, okay.

2:33:03 Speaker 4: So I'm digging it.

2:33:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, excellent. You live in Portland?

2:33:06 Speaker 4: I do, yeah.

2:33:06 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:33:07 Speaker 5: A little bit of a commute for the... A little bit of a.

2:33:09 Speaker 33: Commute, but I'm used to it, because I'm from the Midcoast area. Actually, our lead guitarist, Hot Sauce, is from Cushing, not far from where I'm from, in Warren.

2:33:17 Speaker 8: Oh, okay.

2:33:17 Speaker 33: And we have a lot of mutual friends, which I didn't know until I started talking to him.

2:33:22 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:33:22 Speaker 33: Or we're both from the Midcoast in Maine.

2:33:24 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:33:24 Speaker 33: So there's that connection there.

2:33:26 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

2:33:26 Speaker 33: But I live in Portland now, but I play in several bands as a drummer.

2:33:32 Speaker 5: Well, of course you do.

2:33:33 Speaker 33: Some of them are based out of the Midcoast area in Maine.

2:33:36 Speaker 5: Every drummer.

2:33:37 Speaker 8: It's true. No, it's true.

2:33:38 Speaker 33: Drummers and bass players, but especially drummers right now.

2:33:40 Speaker 5: Especially drummers, yeah.

2:33:41 Speaker 21: It's true.

2:33:42 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.

2:33:44 Speaker 33: A good friend of mine has also just stretched too thin.

2:33:46 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:33:47 Speaker 33: I mean, we do it to ourselves, but.

2:33:50 Speaker 5: My theory about that has always been, and they've all heard me say this a million times, but when you're growing up and you start to get interested in playing an instrument, when you have to have the conversation with your parents, if you tell them you want to play either the drums or the tuba, they're probably going to try to talk you out of it and suggest something else.

2:34:08 Speaker 33: I had the cool parents that actually let my bands practice at my house. I started on guitar, but it was loud music. So when I started playing drums... They encouraged it.

2:34:19 Speaker 5: Really? Good.

2:34:21 Speaker 33: I went to UMaine Augusta in the jazz and contemporary music program and studied there as a drummer and went through the theory program and all that.

2:34:27 Speaker 4: Okay.

2:34:28 Speaker 8: Oh, excellent.

2:34:29 Speaker 33: I was still living there, and I was very lucky to.

2:34:31 Speaker 8: Have a spot.

2:34:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's amazing. That's amazing. Very good.

2:34:38 Speaker 8: Very good.

2:34:38 Speaker 5: If you're just joining us, we've got Sepsis here in the studio with us. And tonight, if you are listening live on Saturday, tonight is Swarmy Fest. Doors at 7 at Jewel Music Venue. And so you can still show up at the door and get in. Just advance tickets are gone.

2:34:57 Speaker 35: We make sure there's plenty of room for everybody, no matter what. Jew's a big place, and that's why we choose it.

2:35:02 Speaker 33: The acoustics are great. The only other show I saw there was a dubstep show, and you were talking about the bass frequencies. I definitely noticed that.

2:35:10 Speaker 12: We played a wrestling show there last time.

2:35:13 Speaker 8: You did?

2:35:14 Speaker 4: Oh, I think I did.

2:35:14 Speaker 34: That was so much fun.

2:35:15 Speaker 32: Cabo Wrestle.

2:35:16 Speaker 35: They brought a wrestling ring in, and they were jumping off the top rope and slamming each other.

2:35:23 Speaker 5: While you were playing?

2:35:24 Speaker 35: Humping each other's faces and everything.

2:35:26 Speaker 4: It was crazy.

2:35:27 Speaker 12: I've never seen anything like that.

2:35:29 Speaker 8: Loved it.

2:35:30 Speaker 12: I've just never seen anything. And then we played music. There were no other bands there. It was just the face humping stuff.

2:35:38 Speaker 10: And then we played.

2:35:40 Speaker 6: We found a way to work it in.

2:35:44 Speaker 8: That's good.

2:35:47 Speaker 12: That's wild.

2:35:49 Speaker 5: It was a wild night.

2:35:53 Speaker 12: It wasn't normal wrestling. It was like adult wrestling.

2:35:56 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I understand.

2:35:58 Speaker 34: There was like burlesque dancing and everything.

2:36:02 Speaker 12: Body parts and all of that.

2:36:03 Speaker 6: Drag queen.

2:36:04 Speaker 5: Was that the most unique? show that you've played as a band?

2:36:08 Speaker 34: I'm going to say yes.

2:36:11 Speaker 5: Sounds like it.

2:36:14 Speaker 12: I'd say it's more at home for us. I want to play more shows like that. We want to play more shows like that.

2:36:22 Speaker 5: None of the bands I ever played have got to play a show like that.

2:36:24 Speaker 35: Me and Melissa have been trying to play the adult awards. We sign up every year because they do bands. Every year we sign up for Exotica.

2:36:35 Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah.

2:36:36 Speaker 12: Anywhere with his naked people are going to sign up.

2:36:38 Speaker 17: Right.

2:36:39 Speaker 5: Well, very good.

2:36:43 Speaker 8: So, yeah.

2:36:43 Speaker 5: So if you're just joining us on this Saturday morning, tonight is Swarmy Fest. So who is on the bill tonight who's played Swarmy Fest before?

2:36:57 Speaker 12: So one of the key characteristics and features of Swarmy Fest is All brand new bands because, of course, my partners and sponsors are always the same.

2:37:06 Speaker 5: Right, right.

2:37:07 Speaker 12: So I have to have new bands.

2:37:09 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:37:10 Speaker 12: To make Rince happy.

2:37:11 Speaker 5: So there's nobody.

2:37:12 Speaker 10: Okay.

2:37:13 Speaker 5: So because for some reason.

2:37:14 Speaker 12: Rince isn't going to show up unless I bring new bands.

2:37:17 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:37:17 Speaker 12: Yeah.

2:37:18 Speaker 5: No, that makes sense. So there's no repeats then.

2:37:21 Speaker 35: Cherry Fog only because. That's right. Elder Peace Loan, unfortunately, for professional reasons, had to.

2:37:29 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:37:30 Speaker 5: Reschedule that's really a bummer because they were on the show just recently i was looking forward to seeing them um really we were too yeah yeah really looking forward to singe uh grim the acronym i listen to their whole album online it's really good the great curtain of course they were here last week and they've all.

2:37:44 Speaker 12: The bands have been yeah great at um just marketing, getting the word out.

2:37:49 Speaker 18: Yeah.

2:37:49 Speaker 12: I want to say 3FD.

2:37:52 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that too.

2:37:53 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:37:54 Speaker 35: They've been doing, I mean, such a great job professionally and just, you know, working the streets and working the screens and playing and making reels.

2:38:05 Speaker 12: They're a lot of fun.

2:38:06 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:38:07 Speaker 12: And they'll be kicking the show off tonight.

2:38:08 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:38:09 Speaker 12: So I'm really hoping we get some people on the floor for them.

2:38:12 Speaker 17: Yeah.

2:38:13 Speaker 5: From what I saw online, it looks like they're a lot of fun. So very much looking forward to that. Very much looking forward to that. But it's just one stage, right?

2:38:21 Speaker 2: Yes.

2:38:22 Speaker 5: Because I know sometimes at Jewel you can do.

2:38:24 Speaker 35: Yeah, we've done the two stages before, but really, it was too much for me. I feel like it was fun, but we had crowds moving from one room to the next room. And there was so much talent there, I felt like some of the bands didn't get the focus that maybe they deserve.

2:38:45 Speaker 8: Maybe that's just my.

2:38:47 Speaker 35: But I want to I want to hyper focus on that, that there's something for everybody.

2:38:54 Speaker 10: Yeah.

2:38:54 Speaker 35: And that Swarmy Fest is a fiesta of sorts, a party mix.

2:39:01 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:39:02 Speaker 35: And that it's truly, truly for everybody. And there should be a song, a moment, a memory for everybody.

2:39:10 Speaker 9: Right.

2:39:10 Speaker 12: Our events, you know.

2:39:13 Speaker 5: Speaking of, you know, we were talking earlier about production and whatnot. Any new music from Sepsis in the works?

2:39:19 Speaker 12: There's tons of new Sepsis music coming out.

2:39:22 Speaker 5: Focus on Swarmy Fest, but I'm really curious.

2:39:24 Speaker 8: We're so excited. Yeah?

2:39:25 Speaker 35: Yeah, we're recording the best music and about to release the best music of our lives.

2:39:30 Speaker 10: Okay.

2:39:30 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's crazy.

2:39:32 Speaker 34: I think we got like three songs left until the album is finished.

2:39:36 Speaker 8: Really?

2:39:37 Speaker 11: Two.

2:39:37 Speaker 8: Two?

2:39:38 Speaker 28: Two.

2:39:38 Speaker 3: My bad.

2:39:39 Speaker 8: Okay. All right.

2:39:40 Speaker 12: Yeah, and I mean, and they're, They're in full production.

2:39:44 Speaker 5: Okay.

2:39:46 Speaker 12: We've talked about Glenn Robinson, our producer, before.

2:39:49 Speaker 35: And one of our big goals is keeping our producer happy. If we can keep the production team happy and excited about the future of Sepsis, then we can be guided to write great music.

2:40:03 Speaker 12: Between that and you know.

2:40:05 Speaker 35: That we're very peer-reviewed, we don't release music without our closest.

2:40:11 Speaker 12: and most loyal fans approving of it first.

2:40:14 Speaker 35: So if a new listener doesn't like our cymbals or our kick drum signal, tough luck a lot of the times because before we release music, we have a team of people that grade it, review it, that peer review it before. And those people just happen to be our most trusted, longest, loyalist friends and family members.

2:40:39 Speaker 12: And also.

2:40:40 Speaker 35: very much investors okay in in the band so yeah you know we're not just building this band on the dance floor right.

2:40:48 Speaker 34: Right we call them yellow jackets.

2:40:51 Speaker 12: Yeah that's the term yellow they're.

2:40:52 Speaker 34: Like our super fans our subscribers okay.

2:40:56 Speaker 12: If you see like he's got the yeah he's got a yellow jacket.

2:40:58 Speaker 35: Badge on yes anybody that you see if they have those jackets that say yellow jackets okay they're a yellow jacket.

2:41:04 Speaker 5: Okay all right very good do you have any hornets No, but if you wear yellow, well... Technically, there's.

2:41:13 Speaker 34: The murder hornets, which is like the VIP.

2:41:16 Speaker 4: Tier of the yellow jackets.

2:41:18 Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha.

2:41:19 Speaker 12: Yep.

2:41:20 Speaker 5: That was on my mind because I had to kill some hornets the other day.

2:41:24 Speaker 14: No, that's real.

2:41:24 Speaker 12: Technically, yes.

2:41:25 Speaker 8: Okay.

2:41:26 Speaker 34: That is your answer.

2:41:28 Speaker 35: So there's people that can subscribe to the band at various tiers to help support the band.

2:41:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, right through the website.

2:41:36 Speaker 8: Yep.

2:41:36 Speaker 11: Yep.

2:41:37 Speaker 8: Yep.

2:41:39 Speaker 5: That's something kind of unique to you guys too, right?

2:41:41 Speaker 12: It is, because we're more than just a band.

2:41:43 Speaker 5: Right, yeah.

2:41:44 Speaker 12: We do modeling, podcasting, marketing, advertising, brand ambassadorships.

2:41:50 Speaker 5: I was on your show recently.

2:41:52 Speaker 12: Yes, I had so much fun.

2:41:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I did too, yeah. It was fun to hang out with you and Lexi on there, and I got a lot of positive feedback about it.

2:41:59 Speaker 34: That's awesome.

2:42:00 Speaker 6: It was a great episode.

2:42:00 Speaker 12: Thank you so much.

2:42:02 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely. No, it was my pleasure. And you talk about... On that show, too, I noticed you talk about, you do a lot of segments about music industry stuff that's going on, which is really interesting. So it's informative, too. Not just entertaining, but you learn a lot. Actually, I'll just ask you, the most fascinating thing to me recently that's gone on in the music industry, and I don't know, because I don't always get a chance to catch it, I don't know if you've talked about it on your show, the Alanis Morissette thing.

2:42:25 Speaker 5: It's such a wild story.

2:42:27 Speaker 12: Oh, I don't know about it.

2:42:28 Speaker 5: Alanis Morissette is suing her former tour manager because her former... tour manager tried to extort her into signing a 15-year contract at a huge salary, and her former tour manager threatened to frame her for drug trafficking if she didn't do it.

2:42:45 Speaker 8: Wow.

2:42:46 Speaker 5: That's insane.

2:42:49 Speaker 12: That sounds like a story that me and Lexi would cover.

2:42:51 Speaker 5: Yeah, you should, yeah.

2:42:53 Speaker 34: Send us a link or something.

2:42:54 Speaker 5: Oh, just Google Alanis Morissette.

2:42:56 Speaker 8: We'll find it.

2:42:57 Speaker 12: It'll come right up.

2:42:58 Speaker 6: We will find it.

2:42:59 Speaker 5: It'll come right up.

2:43:00 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

2:43:01 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.

2:43:02 Speaker 32: We're good at finding stuff.

2:43:03 Speaker 5: It's wild, yeah. I've gotten two segments out of that story.

2:43:06 Speaker 12: I love it.

2:43:07 Speaker 34: It sounds like a good one.

2:43:08 Speaker 5: I love it.

2:43:08 Speaker 12: Thank you for plugging us in.

2:43:10 Speaker 5: Isn't that the most insane thing ever?

2:43:11 Speaker 4: Yeah.

2:43:12 Speaker 5: Because, I mean, there's no shortage of stories about, you know, managers and accountants and, you know, all manner of people screwing over artists and stealing money from them, but that's... And you know where else that happens?

2:43:24 Speaker 8: Where?

2:43:24 Speaker 5: At the DMV.

2:43:26 Speaker 12: At Walmart.

2:43:27 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:43:27 Speaker 12: At the job at Target. At every layer... Farming, agriculture, modeling.

2:43:33 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:43:33 Speaker 12: Construction.

2:43:34 Speaker 5: Oh, of course, yeah.

2:43:36 Speaker 12: Everybody's trying to get over on their neighbor, you know?

2:43:39 Speaker 5: It's capitalism.

2:43:40 Speaker 8: Yes.

2:43:40 Speaker 12: It's capitalism.

2:43:42 Speaker 10: Exactly.

2:43:43 Speaker 5: Although I myself have never tried to extort anyone and threaten to frame them for drug trafficking.

2:43:48 Speaker 12: I haven't lately, no.

2:43:49 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

2:43:50 Speaker 5: I mean, you know. You've really got to want something to take that. Oh, you know what else too? Apparently it was her, the store manager, it was her attorneys who was drafting those letters. It's like, how does this happen? Those letters being sent to Alanis Morissette saying, you know, you can make all these problems go away if you just play ball. But you'll see when you read about it.

2:44:13 Speaker 12: I never put anything in writing.

2:44:15 Speaker 8: No?

2:44:16 Speaker 2: No.

2:44:17 Speaker 5: That's like the opposite of what everyone else says you should do. Why do you never.

2:44:23 Speaker 35: Well, like we've talked about before, no fish would ever be caught if he didn't open his mouth.

2:44:28 Speaker 5: Right.

2:44:28 Speaker 2: Okay.

2:44:31 Speaker 8: What?

2:44:32 Speaker 12: No fish would ever be caught if he didn't open his mouth.

2:44:36 Speaker 5: Okay, explain.

2:44:37 Speaker 12: Meaning I don't create paperwork for people to examine.

2:44:40 Speaker 5: I see.

2:44:41 Speaker 8: I see.

2:44:43 Speaker 5: So if you did try to frame somebody for drug trafficking, there's no evidence. That's smart.

2:44:49 Speaker 8: That's smart.

2:44:51 Speaker 5: That was the tour manager's biggest thing.

2:44:54 Speaker 8: Right, right, right.

2:44:55 Speaker 35: No, you've got to be able to prove criminal intent. All that stuff sounds cool on Facebook, but in court, you've got to prove criminal intent.

2:45:03 Speaker 5: Right, right. It sounds pretty criminal to me, what she tried to do. Anyway, any kind of an ETA on the album?

2:45:14 Speaker 12: I hope that we could get it going before the turn of the year.

2:45:19 Speaker 8: Okay, cool.

2:45:21 Speaker 12: Quality, we want the best quality we could possibly.

2:45:25 Speaker 10: Yeah.

2:45:26 Speaker 12: We're not experts at this, you know?

2:45:28 Speaker 5: Because you do everything yourselves, right? This is all DIY.

2:45:30 Speaker 35: I was just about to say, we make a lot of mistakes, you know? We're not experts.

2:45:33 Speaker 5: That's part of how you learn. That's how you get good at it.

2:45:36 Speaker 35: So a lot of our making music is being objective, like screwing stuff up and then listening to it for a little while and letting our friends go, oh, that's not the right note, and trying another one and showing Rob.

2:45:48 Speaker 12: Bad cymbal stuff and him going, I'll change that one.

2:45:51 Speaker 20: Right.

2:45:53 Speaker 12: Move stuff around, yeah.

2:45:54 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

2:45:54 Speaker 35: A lot of stuff we record, we have to do it again once we get on stage. We've got to move everything around again.

2:46:00 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:46:01 Speaker 12: Because it translates differently in a real room, you know?

2:46:04 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:46:04 Speaker 35: We get away with a lot of stuff on a record that we're harder to get away with on stage.

2:46:10 Speaker 5: Do any of the songs change the way you play them live?

2:46:12 Speaker 12: Every time.

2:46:13 Speaker 2: Do they?

2:46:14 Speaker 8: Every time.

2:46:14 Speaker 35: Every time we have a brand new person or... And you know what's true, too? We have to adjust for every room. Like some rooms are faster. Some rooms are harder.

2:46:24 Speaker 8: Right.

2:46:24 Speaker 35: Some rooms are like bouncier. Some rooms are like kinetic or moodier.

2:46:31 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:46:32 Speaker 34: That's why sometimes we'll have multiple different set lists available depending on the show. We'll have a set list A and a set list B and we'll be like, okay, we're going to play set list B today because it feels right for the mood of the room.

2:46:47 Speaker 8: Right.

2:46:47 Speaker 12: Like, oh, wow, there's a lot of thrash metal fans in here.

2:46:50 Speaker 35: We'll keep it up tempo.

2:46:52 Speaker 12: Oh, there's a lot of hip hop fans in here.

2:46:53 Speaker 8: Let's do.

2:46:54 Speaker 35: romance and switch up the songs real quick yeah.

2:46:59 Speaker 5: Okay no that makes sense that makes sense um so uh we should review for people just joining us swarmy fest tonight the fifth one by the way how how many more of these you think you're going to do like is this obviously it's been an annual tradition do you see this going into the foreseeable future because sometimes people when they do these things they put in they kind of have an end date in their mind of you know i want to do this for X number of years. And then I.

2:47:21 Speaker 12: Matt, I ended this year, for me, it was ended year one.

2:47:26 Speaker 34: We never expected this to be an annual event.

2:47:29 Speaker 8: Really?

2:47:30 Speaker 5: We never did.

2:47:31 Speaker 34: But people just kept asking us to keep doing it.

2:47:34 Speaker 8: So.

2:47:34 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:47:34 Speaker 10: It's really up to.

2:47:35 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:47:37 Speaker 12: You know, like if you guys didn't want to do it, I probably wouldn't want to do it. You know what I mean? Like I said, if Jewel doesn't want to do it, then we won't do it.

2:47:44 Speaker 21: Right.

2:47:45 Speaker 12: If Rob doesn't want to do it, then I guess we won't.

2:47:48 Speaker 35: But the only reason we'll do it, and here's the thing, this may not be, there may not be another Swarmy Fest, but if there is, it will be because everybody wanted to do it. It may not be next year. I hope, we hope it is, and I'm optimistic. I hope today is, I think it'll be a lot of fun.

2:48:08 Speaker 10: Yeah.

2:48:08 Speaker 12: And I hope we do it again.

2:48:09 Speaker 35: But if this was the finale and that's all it ever was, I'd say it is been a success.

2:48:14 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:48:14 Speaker 12: And I'm really happy.

2:48:16 Speaker 35: But because there's so many other people other than me involved, it wouldn't be accurate for me to take a position and say, you know, this is what's going to happen.

2:48:27 Speaker 12: I know what I want to have happen as an individual.

2:48:29 Speaker 8: Right.

2:48:30 Speaker 35: I'd like to see, you know what I'd like to see as an individual? I'd like to see Swarmy Fest happen in California. I'd like to see Swarmy Fest happen in Texas.

2:48:38 Speaker 11: Right.

2:48:38 Speaker 12: I'd like to see Swarmy Fest happen in Chicago.

2:48:41 Speaker 10: Yeah.

2:48:42 Speaker 34: And we are trying to tour more with the upcoming year.

2:48:45 Speaker 8: New Orleans.

2:48:45 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:48:46 Speaker 8: Good. Good.

2:48:47 Speaker 34: That would be awesome if we could pull that off.

2:48:50 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

2:48:50 Speaker 12: Sebs is like to tour.

2:48:51 Speaker 5: Traveling Swarmy Fest.

2:48:52 Speaker 8: Yeah.

2:48:53 Speaker 35: We like to drive around. We like to do the old school band stuff, you know. For us, this is still very much our dream.

2:49:02 Speaker 8: Right.

2:49:02 Speaker 12: We're not bored of this. This isn't a.

2:49:04 Speaker 35: This isn't a pain in the butt for us. We love this stuff. If we didn't love doing it, we wouldn't do it. We're going to make zero money tonight. We expect that.

2:49:14 Speaker 8: That's a prediction.

2:49:15 Speaker 35: We're not doing this to pay the rent or become superstars or be better than people or rock and roll at people.

2:49:23 Speaker 12: So if people want to do it, we'll do it again. If they don't, we won't.

2:49:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Outstanding. We'll remind everybody before we wrap up about tonight, but also where should people go online to keep up with everything Sepsis is doing?

2:49:34 Speaker 12: Sepsis.com. It's the best place. We're trying to get rid of as many middlemen as possible.

2:49:42 Speaker 35: I don't want to ask Mark Zuckerberg for permission to do swarmy stuff. I don't want to ask Spotify for permission to say thank you to my fans.

2:49:51 Speaker 12: I want to be able to.

2:49:51 Speaker 35: Send them a message and say, You know, our company, our community is big enough to be successful, but small enough to handle our own problems and conflict resolution.

2:50:01 Speaker 10: Right.

2:50:02 Speaker 34: You can find everything sepsis on sepsis.com. We've got all of our links there for our socials. We've got our music. We've got our merch. We even like started this discord community. You guys can join and chat with us. So there's everything over there.

2:50:20 Speaker 5: Even our Twitch.

2:50:22 Speaker 8: Okay. So.

2:50:23 Speaker 5: Outstanding. And of course, tonight's Swarmy Fest, the fifth annual Swarmy Fest with, of course, Cephas Headlining, also the Gray Curtain, Grimm the acronym, Singe, 3FD, and the Cherry Fog has been added. Love them. Looking really forward to that. The Blood Witch will be there. a featured dancer. And of course, don't forget the sponsors. This show, again, we're always honored that Matt Connerton Unleashed gets to be a part of this. BPS Records, Loud Entertainment, and of course, Legion of Solace.

2:50:51 Speaker 5: Jenny has an art piece that she's bringing. She's out in the hall there, so looking forward to seeing that. You've seen pictures of it online, but now you get to actually see it. So that'll be very cool. And really looking forward to tonight.

2:51:03 Speaker 11: Oh, what?

2:51:04 Speaker 5: One thing, I'm just curious if there's any particular reason. It's usually in November. This year it's in September. Was it just circumstance?

2:51:12 Speaker 35: Yeah, I was hoping that it just wouldn't be so cold. It's warmer.

2:51:18 Speaker 12: I know there should be some.

2:51:19 Speaker 35: Kind of William Savant philosophy behind this, but it really has to do with New England is unpredictable. We had a couple of Swarmy Fests where it was unnaturally beautiful.

2:51:32 Speaker 29: Right.

2:51:32 Speaker 12: And then all of a sudden it was like, yeah, right. This is new England.

2:51:37 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:51:38 Speaker 12: And we were all out there in winter jackets and I, you know, a.

2:51:42 Speaker 32: Little change up in the, in the outfits, a little bit more warmer, colder stuff, not warmer.

2:51:47 Speaker 5: Yeah.

2:51:48 Speaker 11: Yeah.

2:51:49 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. Well, thank you all for being here. This is wonderful as always. Can't wait to see you tonight for a swarmy fest five. And, uh, Hey, and thank you to everybody who joined us today. Of course, the good people from BPS Records, Larry from Loud Entertainment, Malcolm and Bruce from Legion of Solace. And Tuesday was also with us by phone, or at least was with Malcolm, I should say. Still here, though. By phone, but still here. And she was in the chat room.

2:52:20 Speaker 5: So thank you, everybody. And if you missed any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at WMNHradio.org. At my website, MattConnerton.com. And don't forget the new MattConnertonUnleashed.com. And we're going to leave you with this. This is Jenny's favorite sepsis song. This is called Force You to Lay Down, and we'll see you all tonight. Thanks, everybody.

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